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Topic Started: Jan 27 2009, 09:24 AM (31,696 Views)
RevStu
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Want to talk about something, but can't start a thread? Don't derail existing ones - this one's just for you!
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Fat Controller is a a paedophile. And in a holiday brochure. With Thomas the Tank Engine. Who looks, err, concerned.

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HAHAHA, check the image filename as well.
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If anybody is looking for more up-to-date Xbox emulators or programmes (original Xbox), you'd be best trying xbins (click on the app link).
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A QUESTION OF SOME IMPORTANCE

Right, this weekend, for reasons that I am not going to disclose, I am going to Bath. I require suggestions of public houses, and other vendors of alcoholic beverages, preferably in 568ml format which satisfy the following criteria:

1) Fit barmaid.
2) Decent beer.

If barmaid is not fit, an uggo barmaid with cheap beer is an acceptable alternative as I'll keep drinking until they look good.

3) MAybe an outdoor bit.
4) not in the arse end of nowhere.
5) Maybe food.
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Diogo Ribeiro


Good one, Stu. In fact, I have two nagging questions/thinkythinks bothering me.

First, here's a sloppy copy'n'paste job of something I wrote elsewhere:

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I can't really say I am a great gamer. Even if I have become more generalist over time, spreading out tastes far and wide into platforms and genres which I would otherwise not bother with, I realize I am far too focused on a couple of gaming paths to notice the bigger picture. One of the genres I regret being totally unfamiliar with is the racing genre. I had my share of experiences, starting way back on the ZX Spectrum days of nearly impossible to win offerings (damn you, Nigel Mansell, damn you to hell) on monochrome visuals or the exquisite, pure arcade goodness of Virtua Racing Deluxe for the ill-fated Sega Genesis add-on, the 32X. In fact, very few other titles managed to stir up the hive. If I put myself into it, names like Rad Racer, Megarace, Destruction Derby, Stunt Race FX, Wipeout and Super Off Road come to mind, but other than the PSX titles which were endearing and are still good on their own, mostly everything is still just a brief jolt.

But it's VRD I still keep coming back to, even after all these years. The crude vectorial graphics don't push me away; I'd say they have the same effect on me that Minter's Gridrunner series does in terms of keeping you focused on “The Zone”, and to a degree Wipeout manages something similar. But VRD has become important to me because, while not being the first game I ever managed to play with my father (that honor belongs to Treasure Island Dizzy, Contra and some Pacman variations), it was one where we kept coming back, competing and having a great time. He's since left videogaming behind, probably because he could never find as much time as me to play games, and because he could never get into any other racing games I tried - in no small part due to the ease of control and smooth, multiple camera angles of VRD which fit the game and elevated it beyond the competition at the time.

It was only by setting up a Genesis emulator on his laptop the other day that we managed to rekindle some of that again, but the nostalgia trip only lasted a couple of moments. It's like he wanted to return to that sweet spot several years ago, mastering just about every track and learning each circuit, leaving me in second place but dazzled and even giddy that this grouch of a man was having fun with his son… But just couldn't. He lost his edge - slow reflexes, disorientation with a gamepad. After 30 minutes, nearly all of them smiling, he put the gamepad down and thanked me for the memories. Then he went back to his own world, the one where Robbie Williams realized there was no snowball's chance in hell that he could be Peter Pan.

So, this all means I've been kept myself in the dark for a long time now, and I find it hard to choose a racing game to get myself into the genre. While I admire the driving simulation concept, it's the arcade racing I'm mostly into - speed and fun over whatever passes for realistic physics, although I'm not against some damage modelled on the chassis. I've read good words from Kieron and Stuart Campbell on Outrun 2006: C2C, and some positive remarks elsewhere about Sega Rally Revo, and other mighty wordthinks on Trackmania. But of course, I'm less than a neophyte on the genre, so I have more than a little trouble going for *that* particular game that will (re)introduce me to the delights of racing games.

Where should I go first to get my bearings? And if I ever try to bring my father back into the fold, where should I go afterwards?



Well, that's one. Second in line, and I think I *may* have asked this one already but I get a bit lazy when I haven't had any coffee. Bluntly, is there anything out there right now that bears some resemblance to Cannon Fodder? Last year I replayed a favorite underdog of mine, Soldiers: Heroes of World War 2 and without meaning to sound like a heretic or to challenge the faith of the Church of Fodder, I believe its got some of that feel.

It's a 2004 release that's been pegged in the RTS genre but has a few nifty features. First, it allows for direct control of individual units, well before everyone went gaga over it in Company of Heroes. It's also, in my mind, not so much of an RTS - although there is certainly a similar structure in it, it does seem to pay more of a homage to a game like CF (and a bit to Commandos: Behind Enemy Lines and Hidden and Dangerous as well) where you are overwhelmed by superior forces and have to outwit and outmaneuver the opposition. You can man turrets, pick up equipment from downed soldiers, drive vehicules, and destroy a lot of the background through its use of a smart physics engine. Though I believe it's the sense of scale and odds that place it as a descendant of the games I've mentioned. It's ludicrously hard and unforgiving from the beginning, sometimes with little more than a handful of soldiers trying to prevent a small army heading their way. And since your dead personnel is irreplaceable, this ramps up difficulty quite nicely (and sadistically, in a delicious way).

And the only other games I remember to achieve this feeling were the ones I mentioned, CF included. So the question would be, to any who may have played it, am I off base here or are there really some similarities?


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I thought you didn't like bits + bobs threads?
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Diogo Ribeiro


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Jan 27 2009, 09:54 AM
Fat Controller is a a paedophile. And in a holiday brochure. With Thomas the Tank Engine. Who looks, err, concerned.

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HAHAHA, check the image filename as well.

"Fat Controller" in itself sounds like a peadophile name.
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¡Viva la cosa extraña!

Diogo Ribeiro
Jan 27 2009, 08:02 PM
"Fat Controller" in itself sounds like a peadophile name.

Or a really lousy, but amusing x-men power.

Speaking of which, did anyone see X-men 3 the other night? Fucking hell, that was a bad film.
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I like the bit with the house, the bit with the bridge, and the bit with the walls. The rest of it can fuck right off.
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You've been given permission to derail the thread, but NOT our fond memories of Thomas The Tankengine.
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Ahhhhhh! Derail like a train goes on rails!

I actually just thought this. Goodnight!
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Diogo Ribeiro
Jan 27 2009, 12:56 PM
Good one, Stu. In fact, I have two nagging questions/thinkythinks bothering me.

Diogo, I would love to help, but please, summarise you're questions into one line! I am too lazy to read all that.

This, therefore, may not answer your question, but:

1. Play Outrun 2006, it's awesome, but not multiplayer IIRC. Many friends seem to enjoy the Burnout series but it's not objectively good, because you can't see the track ahead, and therefore have to learn them, but it is fast and you can race head to head with your pops on one screen if you like.

2. I can't think of anything like CF off the top of my head, unless you want something like Ghost Recon 360 or SWAT 4 or Rainbow 6 Vegas or something, all of which are squad based FPSs. I know nothing of RTSs full stop, although you might want to have a look at some flash games, since it would be pretty easy to do CF in flash.
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Tottenham, 3-1 vs Stoke, still shit in defence, but now we have some firepower back the result swings in our favour. Also helps that Stoke are bottom, but plenty of clubs get relegated to the bottom four if they lose a few on the trot.
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Jan 27 2009, 11:30 PM
the bit with the bridge

I liked how it began as a thoroughly overcast day. Then, as they moved the bridge, it was bright, blue skies. But it must have taken them several hours to walk the few feet to the end of the bridge, because by then it was completely night. Continuity as good as the script, there.

And yeah, this is clearly a Bits and Bobs thread, isn't it? A Bad Idea.
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I agree with Rob M, in a way, since it's much more fun to use an old thread for a new purpose, but I also disagree with Rob M, because I only found a Sensi World Cup thread / Forum Rules thread where I could jibber-jabber about Tottenham, which is not really the best place for it.

I, however, accept my place as a second class forumite, and the problems that accompany it, so I'm happy with whatever.
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Jan 28 2009, 01:24 AM
it must have taken them several hours to walk the few feet to the end of the bridge, because by then it was completely night. Continuity as good as the script, there.

Ho ho! I agree. As regards continuity, see also the initial airbase scene of Michael Bay's Transformers, too. He LOVES that, he's a devil forrit.
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Jan 27 2009, 01:16 PM
A QUESTION OF SOME IMPORTANCE

Right, this weekend, for reasons that I am not going to disclose, I am going to Bath. I require suggestions of public houses, and other vendors of alcoholic beverages, preferably in 568ml format which satisfy the following criteria:

1) Fit barmaid.
2) Decent beer.

If barmaid is not fit, an uggo barmaid with cheap beer is an acceptable alternative as I'll keep drinking until they look good.

3) MAybe an outdoor bit.
4) not in the arse end of nowhere.
5) Maybe food.

I'm not in much of a position to help here, as I've been almost teetotal for three years now and only go in pubs to play poker once or twice a month. (And when I'm drinking, I drink mostly spirits.)

One beer I have enjoyed recently is Hobgoblin, a lovely, chocolatey "ruby" beer made by a brewery who also own the pub of the same name in central Bath, where I presume it would be sold. It's an old-style pub full of bare wood and dark corners, but is inhabited by the town's youth - especially but not exclusively the goth community - so I imagine it'll have young and pretty staff.

For lovely surroundings and cute barpersons the Chequers on Rivers Street is definitely recommended, but it's pricey (especially the award-winning food) and I can't comment on the ale range. At the other end of town, the Curfew just off London Road has a cosy downstairs and a fancier upstairs with comfy sofas, old-style jukebox and pool table. (NB Comfy seating is very hard to come by in Bath drinking establishments.)

The New Inn on Monmouth Place (just along from the original Future offices) is a great little pub, with mature but very friendly proprietors and enormous dogs, and is cosy and quiet even at weekends, with a well-regarded stable of beers and good simple pub grub too, all at sensible prices.

If you're after something livelier and you want to see the hottest girls in town, head to Mandalyn's at the bottom of Lansdown Road, which is a brilliant weekend pub full of atmosphere and £1 shots of novelty vodkas, but don't get your hopes up - it's a gay bar, so when they turn you down it really will be because they're lesbians. Bath has the foxiest lesbians in the country, I believe science has recently proved.

Other than that, take random guesses and you probably won't go far wrong - Bath is crammed with pubs, and most of them are pretty decent as long as you avoid the big chains.
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Hmm, I am also off to Bath this weekend, although not in pursuit of fit barmaids. Sadly.
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Jan 28 2009, 09:57 AM

I'm not in much of a position to help here, as I've been almost teetotal for three years now and only go in pubs to play poker once or twice a month. (And when I'm drinking, I drink mostly spirits.)

Just out of interest, what prompted you to knock alcohol on the head Stu?

My own little rant concerns football games with fucking dirty cheating CPU opposition. I've loving Fifa '08 at the moment, but the number if times that you can almost see the CPU decide it's going to score, before waltzing through your entire defence and unleashing an unstoppable pinpoint drive into the top corner is infuriating. Or, occasionally, in the interest of fairness I presume, it will actually allow you to tackle the attacker, for which you will concede a free kick just outside the box on every occasion, which ends in the same way as the above. Or the number of times that it's played a seemingly random amount of extra time, which promptly ends when the CPU scores. Or the way that my players are entirely incapable of holding the ball, yet the CPU's seem almost armour-plated and tank-like. Or the way my defenders will gaze uninterestedly at loose balls inches away from their feet, yet the CPU players seem to swarm forward in an almost-perfect display of attacking football, in which there is always a player available to receive the invariable perfect pass before ending in one of the outcomes above. I could go on forever. I hate it, yet I can't stop playing.
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Speaking of pubs, has anybody here taken a shine to horribly insular, local bear pits that are mostly dead save for the same few purple faces that haunt them every single day from 11am sharp?

There are loads along the main road near me, and I must 'fess up to quite enjoying nipping into them with a pal for some absurdly cheap Strongbow (out of a can), even if I don't feel particularly welcome.
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Marc
Jan 28 2009, 01:22 PM
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Jan 28 2009, 09:57 AM

I'm not in much of a position to help here, as I've been almost teetotal for three years now and only go in pubs to play poker once or twice a month. (And when I'm drinking, I drink mostly spirits.)

Just out of interest, what prompted you to knock alcohol on the head Stu?

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Nothing particularly significant, just the fact that I'm now old and as a result hangovers last four days, which blows hard. Also, three years ago cash was tight (still is) and life was pretty rubbish (not so much), and I didn't see the wisdom of spending a fortune pouring depressants into myself. I was going out socially three or four nights a week (mostly with lesbians, who can swig a lot better than you think) not getting hammered but having a few, and worked out it was costing me £300-400 a month, which is an awful lot of money when you're poor. I replaced booze and pool with poker for social purposes, and started making a profit out of my social life instead of a loss.

Because I didn't and don't miss alcohol per se, I recently realised I'd gone too far, because near-total abstinence destroys your tolerance, plus it's generally held that a small alcohol intake is better for you than absolutely none, so I've tried to make sure I have at least one alcoholic drink a week now - hence knowing what Hobgoblin tastes like. (Since I'm only having occasional ones, I buy fancier stuff just to try it.)
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Jan 28 2009, 12:22 PM
My own little rant concerns football games with fucking dirty cheating CPU opposition. I've loving Fifa '08 at the moment

Which brings us neatly on to the question - is FIFA now better than PES?

I played the most recent version on 360 and noticed the following:

1) Everyone plays as if they've taken a shitload of Valium.
2) Passing is slow as all hell.
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Jan 28 2009, 01:14 PM
mostly with lesbians, who can swig a lot better than you think

*something about being good at laps*

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worked out it was costing me £300-400 a month, which is an awful lot of money when you're poor.

'kin hell. I buy more ('aspartame') than I can realistically get through, each month (since it's mostly for physical health benefit, and I'd rather not be left short). It costs me about £200, and that's if I'm basically spending each evening getting caned, forcing the stuff down (and I've not done this in ooo, ages). I buy... a bottle or two of JD and a few cans/bottles a month - say £30 or so on booze.

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I replaced booze and pool with poker for social purposes, and started making a profit out of my social life instead of a loss.

Me too. I didn't change anything though. I just set up a webcam to film me sitting around wanking in a grotty little flat all evening. It works for me.

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I've tried to make sure I have at least one alcoholic drink a week now - hence knowing what Hobgoblin tastes like

Would you like a Fancy Drink RMD?
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Tom Camfield
Jan 28 2009, 12:51 AM
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Jan 27 2009, 12:56 PM
Good one, Stu. In fact, I have two nagging questions/thinkythinks bothering me.

Diogo, I would love to help, but please, summarise you're questions into one line! I am too lazy to read all that.

This, therefore, may not answer your question, but:

1. Play Outrun 2006, it's awesome, but not multiplayer IIRC. Many friends seem to enjoy the Burnout series but it's not objectively good, because you can't see the track ahead, and therefore have to learn them, but it is fast and you can race head to head with your pops on one screen if you like.

2. I can't think of anything like CF off the top of my head, unless you want something like Ghost Recon 360 or SWAT 4 or Rainbow 6 Vegas or something, all of which are squad based FPSs. I know nothing of RTSs full stop, although you might want to have a look at some flash games, since it would be pretty easy to do CF in flash.

Ah, thanks :) And sorry for being longwinded; sometimes I can't help myself.

1. I'll try Outrun 2006 as soon as possible, along with Burnout - though, wasn't the latter a console only game? In all that wordiness I seem to have forgotten a crucial aspect, which is I primarily play on the PC and NDS. No track ahead in Burnout? Hmmm. Heads will roll.

2. Oh, I played my share of GRs and R6s back in the day. SWAT4 is brilliant, too :)

I'll try to find the time to give a good playthrough across the 4 campaigns of Soldiers, maybe write something up on how I feel there are some similarities. I'm overload with writing stuff and work at the moment, so that might take a while :(
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