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| Topic Started: Oct 27 2009, 04:02 PM (960 Views) | |
| Marc | Oct 27 2009, 04:02 PM Post #1 |
Waiting for the punchline
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I've just been informed I have three days to reapply for the job I've been doing for the last three years (ten with the place altogether), I have no guarantee of getting it and if not, I'm redundant just in time for Christmas. Baby's due this Sat as well. Cheers! |
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| RevStu | Oct 27 2009, 04:24 PM Post #2 |
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Holy shit. Good luck, man. |
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| CraigGrannell | Oct 27 2009, 04:50 PM Post #3 |
Your thumping bass surrounds you
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Arse. Good luck. |
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| The Nixon Administration | Oct 27 2009, 05:07 PM Post #4 |
Type some shit in here please
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Good luck, man. I totally sympathise; 28th November last year, five minutes to five on a Friday afternoon, my boss "suddenly remembered she had somewhere else to be", and about ten seconds later I was called into the boardroom and given the sack. If it helps, despite me panicking and wanting to deck everyone who unhelpfully said "don't worry, it'll be fine" etc, I actually ended up getting another, better job before Christmas, well before my redundancy money had run out. So, er, don't worry, it'll be fine. |
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| VOTE LIBERAL | Oct 27 2009, 05:52 PM Post #5 |
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That's completely shite, dude. I really feel for you. What perfect fucking timing of them, the cunts. |
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| Anonymous X | Oct 27 2009, 05:58 PM Post #6 |
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I add my goodwill and hope that you triumph over the cunts by continuing to work for them. |
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| Xeethra | Oct 27 2009, 06:39 PM Post #7 |
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I salute you and offer my good will for microcosmic benefit it will cause. |
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| jonarob | Oct 27 2009, 08:20 PM Post #8 |
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Good luck chap! Remember we're here to whinge at. |
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| mark | Oct 27 2009, 08:27 PM Post #9 |
I wouldn't advise you to try.
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Hngh, commiserations an ting. Or is it good luck? Break a leg? But yes, similarly I was given my letter of redundancy from a job I've been doing at least adequately for five years a couple of weeks ago, seven years to the day since I joined the company. I had the option to apply for another practically identical, yet legally different, job for which they'd already hired someone else, so interviewing me for this would basically have been a formality, or another job for which I'm completely unsuited. (another job for which I would have been ideally suited had already been automatically given to my boss' partner's sister without interview, despite her having no experience in the area and barely a fraction of my system knowledge, but hey ho) Luckily, I'd already been offered a job in a different department, away from the nepotistic, insular ("flagpole"-Ed) colleagues I'd previously considered to be friends. No doubt I will be stripped of my administrator access to the system we use but this just means I won't be able to help them out when they realize just how awesome I am, shortly after they realize they themselves are nothing more than tinkering dilettantes. Cheg on! |
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| Marc | Oct 28 2009, 08:38 AM Post #10 |
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Not sure what I want to do tbh, the new structure they're proposing would mean me working under someone I simply don't like and the pay is awful. £14,000 on the table, for ten years work. Makes you feel like giving up altogether at times. |
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| Malc | Oct 28 2009, 12:49 PM Post #11 |
I Like eggs.
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I've been made redundant a few times. The first time I had a 2 week old baby, and the 2nd time was a month before christmas. The first time I found a new job before the notice period of my existing job had finished (and as I didn't have to work my notice period, I was actually being paid by 2 companies at the same time for a week!). The 2nd time I got a very generous pay off, and I used that to relocate from London to Devon. (I managed to get a mortgage whilst not employed during that period!) |
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| The Nixon Administration | Oct 28 2009, 01:53 PM Post #12 |
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Type some shit in here please
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Mark, Marc, Málc. That's confusing. I can't believe they're making you jump through hoops for that sort of money - you could make that much in any number of other jobs, and if you're not enthused about the "best" outcome, it might be time to just tell them to get stuffed, take the redundancy (especially if you get pay in lieu of notice, as Málc and I did) and take your chances. Easier said than done with a baby on the way, but this could turn out to be the perfect opportunity to say "You know what? Screw this shit." Edited by The Nixon Administration, Oct 28 2009, 01:54 PM.
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| VOTE LIBERAL | Oct 28 2009, 04:13 PM Post #13 |
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But potentially convenient if you were cheating on with one of the others. "Did I say Mark? I meant Marc. Did I say Marc? I meant Spinglo Sponglo!." edit: Ha! Edited by VOTE LIBERAL, Oct 28 2009, 04:14 PM.
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| Marlon | Oct 29 2009, 01:17 AM Post #14 |
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You know what? After all this time that whole Spinglo Sponglo! thing STILL amuses the hell out of me. 
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| mark | Oct 29 2009, 07:45 AM Post #15 |
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I wouldn't advise you to try.
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Spook! When I introduced myself to a certain member of this forum IRL, he thought I said "Spinglo Sponglo!" and said, "Oh! Spinglo Sponglo!". 
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| mark | Oct 29 2009, 07:46 AM Post #16 |
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I wouldn't advise you to try.
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Oh, wait. I get it now.
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| MojoJojo | Oct 30 2009, 10:07 AM Post #17 |
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Technically, if they have already given the job to someone else and you can prove it, they are in breach of redundancy laws. But it would be very difficult to prove, and you can't really win- even if you get compensation, it won't help you get a new job. So it's only worth doing if you're pissed off with them and want to punish them. Commiserations and good luck to you and Marc. |
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| Marc | Oct 30 2009, 10:48 AM Post #18 |
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Well just had my first meeting, and non the wiser really. I think I'm basically going to be offered the same position I'm in now - where I've somehow ended up running three mobile fitters and schduling their workload, for £14k a year - on more hours and slightly less money. Either that, or collect my £2.5k redundancy, plus the same again in notice. That's for ten years by the way. |
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| VinylPusher | Oct 30 2009, 04:45 PM Post #19 |
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Marc, you're selling yourself short if you're supervising 3 fitters for only £14k/year. Take the redundancy + notice and get yourself to a temp agency or 4 and then harass the hell out of them until you get a job involving less work for at least £2k more. Customer Advisor at a bank - that's a bloody good job. A basic wage of probably more than you're on now, plus bonuses. It's basically a sales job, where you get points for different things (refer a mortgage, 150 points. Successful loan application, 300 points). You get a monthly target etc. It's not high-pressure (unless you join the wrong branch). My mate just handed his notice in at NatWest in Telford, so there's a vacancy right away  Whatever happens though, see it as one door cosing - another door opening. |
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| Marc | Oct 30 2009, 05:00 PM Post #20 |
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Tell me about it. I'm not normally a bitter person, but to be told not too long ago (unofficially of course) by a member of management that I had zero chance of promotion, as I'd put myself in a position where I'm doing too much work for too little money, and they won't stand the cost of paying someone to replace me was pretty much the final kick in the balls. It's a scary time to start afresh, especially with a baby due, but I don't honestly know how I'm supposed to continue in this position with a shred of enthusiasm any more. |
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| VOTE LIBERAL | Oct 30 2009, 05:27 PM Post #21 |
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Marc, first of all, don't listen to anything that I have to say, as I've been in and out of jobs all over the shop (and sometimes not in shops). Secondly, here's what I would do if I were you. If I read you right (and it's been a long day), you'd be getting £5k all-in-all, which is crap yeah for a job you've been in for ten years - but it's a job you're tired of. Look at it instead as nearly a third of a year's pay (though admittedly, if they're paying it all in at once, you'll lose a fair whack of it to tax). With the nipper on the way, Xmas approaching and your own feelings about it seemingly resigned to crapness either way - consider walking out and having a few months to enjoy Xmas and the birth with less stress and more time to really pay attention. The fact that you've been in steady employment for 10 years is good, any employer looking at you will see that you're not some flighty chancer. Sign on the dole, contact anyone you pay bills or repayments to, to look for more friendly payment schemes, and as was said above, contact all the agencies you possibly can. You've spent the last ten years working and you're fed up. If you believe at all in exciting fresh new changes coming from nowhere, consider that you can be free of that crappy job that you hate, you have a baby nearly here, it's almost time for The Festival Of Fools And Horses Repeats, and it's about time someone else paid for YOU to sponge off the taxpayer, instead of the other way around. Find something you want to do, and replenish your spirit again. That's what I'd do anyway. |
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| uppi17 | Oct 31 2009, 07:30 PM Post #22 |
Bored now
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I'm quite sure that redundancy payments are not taxable. Because the one I'll be getting in February isn't. |
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| Marlon | Oct 31 2009, 08:31 PM Post #23 |
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Only payments above 30K are taxable, I think. |
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| Marc | Oct 31 2009, 09:06 PM Post #24 |
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It's 30k yes. Seeing as the actual redundancy money is just 2.6k, with the same again for notice, I don't need to worry. Ever feel you've wasted ten years? |
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| VOTE LIBERAL | Oct 31 2009, 11:05 PM Post #25 |
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Aha, fair enough about the tax thing. I've never received any amounts of money in one go that are even close to that. Marc, if you're feeling like you've wasted ten years then do consider turning it into as much of a personal victory as you can. Hooray! You've the chance to not do that job that you feel like you wasted ten years doing! Wahey! |
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