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| Tweet Topic Started: Dec 1 2013, 12:38 PM (287 Views) | |
| NewTexas | Dec 1 2013, 12:38 PM Post #1 |
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Texas Representative Council Per Article X: Texas Representative Council A Regional Council shall represent the interests of all Texans in discussions relating to internal, external and constitutional affairs of Texas. 1. The specific duties of the Council shall include: a. Mediating any internal disputes that may threaten Regional peace, security or prosperity. b. Adjudicating any internal complaints and assist in formulating responses and courses of action in international affairs. c. Conferring on matters regarding breaches of the Texas Constitution. d. Approving any Alliance approved by the Cabinet. If the vote of the full TRC is against the proposed alliance then the proposed alliance will be declined. 2. The Council shall consist of the Cabinet Members of Texas, in addition to eight other members appointed by the Governor on a triennial basis. 3. At the Governor's discretion, citizens of Texas (who were citizens at the time of the last Texas elections) may vote to confirm nominees to the Texas Representative Council. In such a vote all eight nominees will be listed on a single ballot; any nominee receiving 50% or less of the votes of the top vote-getter shall be considered rejected. In the case of a rejected nominee, the Governor shall exercise his authority under Article XVII: Expulsion of Cabinet Members to appoint a replacement unilaterally, without need for ratification. This vote shall take place no later than two weeks after the last Texas elections. 4. The Governor of Texas may remove any member of the Council for cause, including dereliction of their duties as Council members. 5. Additionally, any Council Member will be deemed to have forfeited their seat on the Council in any of the following cases: a. The Council Member is ejected from the Region of Texas in accordance with the provisions of Article XI of the Texas Constitution. b. The Council Member voluntarily moves out of the Region of Texas (for any reason other than military or diplomatic missions as approved by the Cabinet) and takes up residence in another region for a period of 5 consecutive days or a period of 10 days total out of any two-week period. Additional duties will include welcoming new nations to Texas and being an Official Texas Goodwill Ambassador*. Current Members The Itinerant Ranger Dude of A Mysterious Vagabond The Galactic Muppets of Darth Kermit The Concordium of Independent Planets The Republic of Makem The Confederate States of Ole Dixieland The Republic of The South Plains of Texas The Star Trek Nation of Trecdom2 Nominees The Itinerant Ranger Dude of A Mysterious Vagabond The Galactic Muppets of Darth Kermit The Skybound Republic of Havensky The Concordium of Independent Planets The Republic of Makem The No Man's Land of No TV and No Beer The Confederate States of Ole Dixieland The Star Trek Nation of Trecdom2 * These are nations that are encouraged to welcome new arrivals to Texas and represent Texas when out in the world. Additionally, they are responsible for keeping the NationStates board content fresh and current. Have Fun!
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| Darth Kermit | Dec 1 2013, 08:19 PM Post #2 |
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Let’s see here… I’m giving a speech in hope that you will vote me into one of the top eight positions (of a total of eight positions), where I need to garner at least 50% of the votes of the top vote getter, so that Big Tex might select me as one of the eight non-cabinet members of the Representative Council, from a possible group of eight. Right. Okay, let’s dance! Greetings, citizens of Texas! ![]() Here I am, hat in hand (so to speak), asking for YOUR VOTE! “Why?” you may wonder, should I vote for this handsome, humble, small, green, possibly confused Dark Lord space froggy creature? :darth2 The answer, my friends, is that if you want to keep your current insurance policy, you can. Period! Less filling, more flavor, and ZERO calories! AND a car elevator in every garage!!! Please help me to continue feeding at the public trough while I continue to support Big Tex, our great region, and all of the folks who lovingly call Texas home! Please also consider voting for EACH and EVERY nation on the ballot, since a vote for them won’t hurt me at all! Thank you, and God Bless Texas!!!
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| Aquafireland | Dec 3 2013, 11:41 AM Post #3 |
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Crazy Armadillo
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*hoots and whistles* Nice speech, DK. Humorous as normal!
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| Darth Kermit | Dec 4 2013, 12:59 AM Post #4 |
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Thank you, and I'm glad to see that you're running for Counterbalance again - You've got my vote!
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| Aquafireland | Dec 4 2013, 06:05 AM Post #5 |
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All of the credit for you in the first place my friend - you were the one who nominated me last Trimester for the job! No, you have got my vote!
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| NewTexas | Dec 4 2013, 01:34 PM Post #6 |
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You two sound like Chip & Dale, "After you!", "No, after you!", "No, I must insist!", "No, I won't hear of it!", etc...![]()
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| A Mysterious Vagabond | Dec 4 2013, 02:53 PM Post #7 |
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Fellow Texans, I am askin fer yer help once agin to put me on the Texas Representative Council. In the past, I have used veiled threats to buttress my arguments about why I'm so deservin of this honor, but this year I'm gonna do somethin different. This year, there is goin to be a reward fer them who votes fer me, and any threats of violence will remain unspoken. Here's all ya need to do. Just cast yer ballot to return both me and Darth Kermit to the Council, and I promise he will reward ya handsomely. It's so very simple. As always, I'm lookin forwards ta servin the great region of Texas in any way that don't actually make me do anything but occasionally eat more BarBQ than I can handle. Thank y'all so much fer givin me that opportunity! - amv - |
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| Darth Kermit | Dec 4 2013, 09:51 PM Post #8 |
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Still waiting to hear YOUR speech, Big Guy! (By the way, that's me on the right.) Excellent speech AMV! I might have to appropriate it next election cycle. :darth2
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| Aquafireland | Dec 5 2013, 11:23 AM Post #9 |
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AMV, straight vote for you, my friend! Hmm, the other Cabinet members have not put up theirs yet...
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| Havensky | Dec 7 2013, 10:43 AM Post #10 |
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Commander of the Airship Armada
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King Drake steps up to the podium - looking solemn and stern. Behind him, a formation of Havensky Legion stands at attention. "These are dark times, there is no denying. Our world has, perhaps, faced no greater threat than it does today. But I say this to our citizenry: we, ever your servants, will continue to defend your liberty and repel the forces that seek to take it from you! Your [strike]Ministry[/strike] Council… remains… strong!"* The Legion raise their swords, HUZZAH! HUZZAH! HUZZAH! As a member of the TRC, I promise to work to ensure the safety of the region and to maintain the region as a beacon of hope, a beacon of freedom, and a beacon of BBQ! :fendas Spoiler: click to toggle
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| NewTexas | Dec 8 2013, 12:21 PM Post #11 |
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WHEN YOU VOTE: BE SURE AND VOTE ON ALL THAT YOU APPROVE OF (Up to 8) ALL AT ONE TIME This is a vote of confidence vote. You are selecting the Representatives you think best represent Texas or will best represent Texas. You can pick any or all. Nations not receiving better than 50% may not make the Council. ** If you mess up, it cannot be redone without throwing out all results (not a likely option) ** ![]() Update: Ok, this will not work. Not like this anyway. We are giving each candidate their only Poll. With a Yes or No option. |
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| Amandil | Dec 9 2013, 09:32 AM Post #12 |
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I just want to clarify how the voting will be working for the TRC. According to the Constitution,
So even if someone receives 50% of the positive votes on their ballot, they still would not be elected if they do not receive they do not receive 50% of the person with the largest number of votes. So if a candidate gets 14 votes, and that is the highest total, then anyone with less than 7 votes would be be placed on the TRC, in which case you would be able to appoint anyone else to the position without a further vote. Does that sound right to everyone? |
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| No TV and No Beer | Dec 9 2013, 10:11 AM Post #13 |
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Well, seeing how this is the second time the governor has had to effectively suspend the constitution to get around the voting requirements under this new system, I move the next order of business in the new administration be a special vote to amend the constitution to revert the TRC to what it was before. That is all. |
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| NewTexas | Dec 9 2013, 12:33 PM Post #14 |
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We lookaed at this and looked at this and came up with a scenario like this: First voter votes for all 8 candidates - 8 votes Second voter only votes for 1 candidate - 9 votes Third voter votes for 1 different candidate - 10 votes So, in this case we have 6 candidates with 1 vote and 2 candidates with 2 apiece. We could not figure out who wins in that situation. Still can't. Maybe we are just stupid. That is why we went the other route.
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| Amandil | Dec 9 2013, 12:49 PM Post #15 |
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I think it could work either way. The situation that you are describing could also happen the way it is set up now. Someone could just choose not to vote in the polls for the people they do not want to elect. Right now, each TRC candidate has between 4 and 10 votes, and only 1 vote has been cast for No Confidence. So at the moment, the way I read the Constitution, only people with 6 or more votes would be confirmed to the TRC if voting ended now. I think that the voting could be accomplished with either this method or the old method. In either method, you take the highest number of votes, and anyone with 50% or less of that number is not confirmed. I don't know that we need to totally scrap this method, but should definitely discuss how we think it went after the election is over. Also, if we do keep this system in place, we probably need to remove Article XVIII from the Constitution as it is no longer valid under this system.
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| NewTexas | Dec 9 2013, 03:35 PM Post #16 |
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So, we guess in our example, the two 2-vote getters would be in and the rest out. Guess we got confused about the "total votes" part, which does not appear to come into play.
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| Amandil | Dec 9 2013, 04:16 PM Post #17 |
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That is how I read the article as it is now written. |
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| Darth Kermit | Dec 10 2013, 09:10 PM Post #18 |
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I second the motion. |
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| No TV and No Beer | Dec 13 2013, 03:46 PM Post #19 |
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It was supposed to be more like this: First candidate gets 15 votes Next five candidates get 12 votes Next candidate gets 10 votes Bottom candidate gets 7 votes Since the bottom candidate did not get at least 50% of the top vote-getter's total, he would not be confirmed. But if he got 8 votes, he would be. As the vote for TRC has always naturally attracted 15 voters or more, it is highly unlikely that there would be two candidates who could not garner at least 8 votes, much less six. |
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| No TV and No Beer | Dec 30 2013, 08:16 PM Post #20 |
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OK, so taking the results of the last election as an example: No TV and No Beer (10) Independent Planets (9) A Mysterious Vagabond (9) Darth Kermit (9) Havensky (8) Trecdom2 (8) Ole Dixieland (8) Makem (5) ...meaning if we had followed the constitutional procedures for the confirmation, all would have been confirmed without incident -- even Makem, who did receive the requisite 50% showing of the top vote-getter. So all this hand-wringing over what-if scenarios turns out to have been extremely unnecessary. P.S. looked over the amendment language again, and realize it may need a minor revision: it should read "less than 50%" as opposed to "50% or less" as it currently states. That way Makem is still confirmed, and everyone is happy. |
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