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Reverend Wright; The Reverend Wright thread
Topic Started: Apr 24 2008, 09:28 PM (892 Views)
Hoss
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Don't make me use my bare hands on you.
I just hope that they don't go after McCain for his friendships with Orville and Wilbur Wright. :lol:
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Minuet
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May 1 2008, 09:21 AM
Man, I am ever sick of hearing about this guy (i.e. Wright).

Unfortunately, I think this controvery has sunk Obama's campaign. Whether he gets through the primaries or not. I would have liked to have seen a more clean Presidential race this year (sans the crazy mud-slinging), but that was too much to ask I believe.

It will be Reverand Wright all day and all night like it was with the Swift Boat issue with John Kerry.

Except Obama doesn't deserve the level of criticism that Kerry got.

I don't agree with that last comment. I do think the man could have done a lot more to separate himself from the comments a lot earlier. The timing of his finally breaking with them does seem politically motivated.
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Intrepid2002
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UNGH!
What isn't politically motivated these days? Maybe what 24 is referring to is the change some of us are looking for.
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UNGH!
38957
May 1 2008, 09:22 AM
I just hope that they don't go after McCain for his friendships with Orville and Wilbur Wright. :lol:

Who knows, maybe they'll go after him for his friendship with Charles Keating Jr. Maybe not.
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Intrepid2002
May 1 2008, 09:06 AM
38957
May 1 2008, 09:22 AM
I just hope that they don't go after McCain for his friendships with Orville and Wilbur Wright.  :lol:

Who knows, maybe they'll go after him for his friendship with Charles Keating Jr. Maybe not.

I'm sure there'll be some Keating 5 commercials during the general campaign.

I heard McCain was buddies with Alexander Graham Bell, too. He was known for shouting over the phone.
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Intrepid2002
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UNGH!
^^^

My point exactly.
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Minuet
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Intrepid2002
May 1 2008, 10:03 AM
What isn't politically motivated these days? Maybe what 24 is referring to is the change some of us are looking for.

I guess I am not seeing the change you refer to. Obama talks about change - but this incidence shows that he isn't any different from any other politician. That doesn't make him bad. But it doesn't make him "better" either.

Another incident that gives pause is the flip flop on NAFTA. Again I just see a politician acting like a politician. I don't see him as so "different" anymore. :no:
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Sgt. Jaggs
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How about a Voyager Movie
38957
May 1 2008, 08:03 AM
Minuet
May 1 2008, 07:59 AM
I'm just guessing here, but I think the "Billy Dee" reference is to Billy Dee Williams and the persona he usually plays on the screen of a shmoozer and schemer. Reference his character in the original Star Wars films.

Of course if you do reference that you need to be reminded that the character came through in the end, helped save everyone and became a hero  ;)

But only because he was betrayed by Darth Vader and Han Solo (the symbolic representation of the American people) still got frozen in carbonite for trusting him. I mean, Chewbacca, Luke, Leah, and Solo wouldn't have even been in this jam if Lando hadn't sold out to the dark side in the first place. And think of poor C3P0 (the symbolic representation of the British).

Let's face it. THe force was not with Lando.

:lol: Fantastic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I took it immediately to mean "smooth smooth and smooth talker" because that was Billy Dee Williams ultimate image as an actor.

I just never heard it used as a verb before! :lol:
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Dandandat
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Time to put something here
Intrepid2002
May 1 2008, 10:03 AM
What isn't politically motivated these days? Maybe what 24 is referring to is the change some of us are looking for.

If Obama is as politically motivated as the rest of them how can he bring about the change he talks about?
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Wichita
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Obama essential problem remains the same. He is inexperienced. He lacks even Bush's pre-presidential experience of running a state.

IMO, Obama used the "change" brand for his campaign provide an alternative reason to vote for him. As long as he could appear to be different than the average politican, then it was OK.

But, as I have said before, I read rumblings about the possible controversial views of Wright almost a year before the media jumped on them. He was lucky it worked as long as it did.

At the end of the day, I don't think Obama is worse than the average politician. His problem was that he was putting himself forth as better than the average politician. That's why he is being judged so harshly on this issue.

Now that he has finally somewhat definitively ditched Wright and his views, I actually like Obama better than I have at any point up to now.

Even stranger, I am liking Hillary's attitude. She may have been more honest in the last two months than she ever has.

McCain has thus far taken somewhat a high road in this fray. I have appreciated that as well.

My problem is that I still secretly wish for that "other" choice. These three choices are not the best that the USA can put forth.

However, they are pretty much our choices.

I still think the VP choices may tip this election for me.
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How about a Voyager Movie
Wichita
May 1 2008, 07:07 PM


I still think the VP choices may tip this election for me.

I still think the VP choices may tip this election for me.

BINGO!!!!!

:rolleyes: You are the only person I have heard say the same things I believe about McCain IE age. Besides Chuck Norris. Of course its much more than that now but I am still available to either party.
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Dandandat
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Wichita
May 1 2008, 08:07 PM
Obama essential problem remains the same. He is inexperienced. He lacks even Bush's pre-presidential experience of running a state.

IMO, Obama used the "change" brand for his campaign provide an alternative reason to vote for him. As long as he could appear to be different than the average politican, then it was OK.

But, as I have said before, I read rumblings about the possible controversial views of Wright almost a year before the media jumped on them. He was lucky it worked as long as it did.

At the end of the day, I don't think Obama is worse than the average politician. His problem was that he was putting himself forth as better than the average politician. That's why he is being judged so harshly on this issue.

I agree, if you are someone who realy like his polices then this "revelation" (as much as it is new) of him just being another politiion isn't going to make much of a difference. This is why some of his supporters can't understand why this is such a big deal. But a lot of Obama suport didnt come from his polices it came from the idea that he was diffrent, and now that this is being chalanged it is a big deal.
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