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Battlestar Galactica
Topic Started: Jan 31 2008, 02:27 AM (6,412 Views)
Hoss
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What was Kara Thrace? Everyone saw her.

Jesus, in BSG's universe, would have been the son and incarnate Word of the one true God, not a Cylon. Jesus being a Cylon makes no sense to me. Unless this is a completely ficticious Jesus with no relation to the real one.
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Apr 10 2009, 11:56 AM
What was Kara Thrace? Everyone saw her.

Jesus, in BSG's universe, would have been the son and incarnate Word of the one true God, not a Cylon. Jesus being a Cylon makes no sense to me. Unless this is a completely ficticious Jesus with no relation to the real one.
I think what Dwayne means is, if BSG were in fact reality, then every "human" on earth would been the a descendant of both humans and Cylons and this would include the Virgin Mary. Jesus would have been composed of DNA just as she was and that DNA would likely have had both human and Cylon elements to it.

That's all I'm going to say on the subject. For those who are interested in discussing the genetics of Jesus, I recall there was a topic way back in the Spiritual Journey's forum (I think I was the one that initiated it). How much, if any, of that topic remains after the technical snafus that finally brought about Zeta is anyone's guess but it might be a more fitting thread for any such discussion...
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I would go one step further... If BSG were reality, then our evolution to monotheism would be a step from the gods of the original 12 Colonies to the God of the Cylons. And given the metaphysical nature of BSG, then it would be a safe conclusion that miracles performed by Jesus in the BSG reality would not be allegorical. In the BSG world he could really have risen from the dead, and there is a built in explanation on how he did it. After all, the metal Cylons loyal to the human-Cylon alliance were not destroyed and could have been returning to help on a regular basis when seen in context of 150,000 years.

It's just that when I sit and contemplate all the scenarios that could play out in light of the BSG story line thus far, I think it could add some very interesting twists to the story of human civilization, just like Stargate does.

Just to add... Using the BSG story line as a start, Ronald D. Moore can explain in a ficticious way, much like was done through the Startgate series, the source of many of humanities religious beliefs across a variety of cultures. Resurrection, an after life, gods and God, angels... I think the possibilities could be exciting.
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Apr 11 2009, 05:27 PM
I would go one step further... If BSG were reality, then our evolution to monotheism would be a step from the gods of the original 12 Colonies to the God of the Cylons. And given the metaphysical nature of BSG, then it would be a safe conclusion that miracles performed by Jesus in the BSG reality would not be allegorical. In the BSG world he could really have risen from the dead, and there is a built in explanation on how he did it. After all, the metal Cylons loyal to the human-Cylon alliance were not destroyed and could have been returning to help on a regular basis when seen in context of 150,000 years.

It's just that when I sit and contemplate all the scenarios that could play out in light of the BSG story line thus far, I think it could add some very interesting twists to the story of human civilization, just like Stargate does.

Just to add... Using the BSG story line as a start, Ronald D. Moore can explain in a ficticious way, much like was done through the Startgate series, the source of many of humanities religious beliefs across a variety of cultures. Resurrection, an after life, gods and God, angels... I think the possibilities could be exciting.
Yes and in our reality, the miracles performed by Jesus could not be allegorical and he could have really risen from the dead and he didn't even need concious robots.
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Apr 13 2009, 10:33 AM
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Apr 11 2009, 05:27 PM
I would go one step further... If BSG were reality, then our evolution to monotheism would be a step from the gods of the original 12 Colonies to the God of the Cylons. And given the metaphysical nature of BSG, then it would be a safe conclusion that miracles performed by Jesus in the BSG reality would not be allegorical. In the BSG world he could really have risen from the dead, and there is a built in explanation on how he did it. After all, the metal Cylons loyal to the human-Cylon alliance were not destroyed and could have been returning to help on a regular basis when seen in context of 150,000 years.

It's just that when I sit and contemplate all the scenarios that could play out in light of the BSG story line thus far, I think it could add some very interesting twists to the story of human civilization, just like Stargate does.

Just to add... Using the BSG story line as a start, Ronald D. Moore can explain in a ficticious way, much like was done through the Startgate series, the source of many of humanities religious beliefs across a variety of cultures. Resurrection, an after life, gods and God, angels... I think the possibilities could be exciting.
Yes and in our reality, the miracles performed by Jesus could not be allegorical and he could have really risen from the dead and he didn't even need concious robots.
While I understand what you're saying, it should be noted that it's very likely that Jesus existed, but one must take it upon faith that his miracles were real... That's how I got on to the idea of my "The source of spirituality" thread.
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Anyone seen or plan on seeing Caprica? It is available on DVD and download now. I was thinking that I would download it on the XBOX tonight and watch it.
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Apr 22 2009, 09:22 AM
Anyone seen or plan on seeing Caprica? It is available on DVD and download now. I was thinking that I would download it on the XBOX tonight and watch it.
I picked it up yesterday and look forward to wacthing it this weekend. :thmup:
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Thanks for the heads-up on this :)
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It's been the banner ad on every sistertrek page for a couple of days on my computer. :)
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Just finished watching Caprica. There are no spoilers really here, and I think this topic warrants its own thread.

But anyways, it seems Ronald D. Moore (RDM) is spinning a tale both mystical and spiritual, with story lines dealing in monotheism versus polytheism. As well, it touched on the essence of life and what constitutes a soul. I think it's all standard fare considering where BSG went. I do think RDM will dig further into it though, than he had the chance to do with BSG.

At the same time, Caprica was technological, perverted and violent. The perversions and hedonism of the planet Caprica hit you square in the face in a matter of fact fashion. In virtual environments real people engage in sex, violence and even murder. And of course, this happens between people of all ages. Anyone with the holo-visor thing. I guess the device started out as a very sophisticated communication device. This virtual environment is the center of some of the action, but plays a key role in telling the story. I really am seeing the potential for some very thought provoking story lines about how the cylons came to desire human form, why they believe in a single God, and how resurrection technology might come to be.

Near the end of the premier, I came to the conclusion it's almost understandable how the cylons come to believe humans should be destroyed. So while this series is about the creation of the cylons within the 12 Colonies, and how the cycle of war between humans and cylons started all over again, I also think it will be about humanities deadly sins and how they could bring about our destruction.

I see a lot of potential here.
Edited by Dwayne, Apr 23 2009, 08:25 PM.
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I watched it yesterday and enjoyed it. I also think it has a lot of possibility. I will be definitely watching it next year.
Edited by fireh8er, Apr 24 2009, 02:39 PM.
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Y'know, I don't known if anyone else mentioned this yet, but thanks to how BSG concluded it means that Bob Dylan did not write "All Along the Watchtower". Rather, he remembered it...
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^^^ Yep... in the new BSG canon, the song is significant as a clue to an impending revelation.
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^^^
But does this mean Dylan is danger of being charged with plagiarism now? ;) :D
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Maybe... Dylan would be a cylon-human hybrid, so there's a good chance he could claim an ancestor wrote it.
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