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Battlestar Galactica
Topic Started: Jan 31 2008, 02:27 AM (6,420 Views)
Dwayne
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Who or what is the Cylon God who apparently is playing this out like a puppet master.

Kobal, the 12 Colonies, Earth, the recreated Kara Thrace, the dead Kara on the Earth... something is directing all this and it seems that the story is telling us it is what the Cylons are calling the one true God.
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Or the writers are smoking too much pot.

Thrace is suppose to be a religious figure, if I remember correctly, an angle of some sort. Anyway, that is what one of the hybrids told her.

But, the hybrids were created by the past generation of chrome-cylons. The seven (or eight) flesh cylons were created by the original 5 flesh cylons who say that they were either created directly by the humans, or by chrome cylons who were created by the humans thousands of years ago. I take it that the cylon fighters, which are cybernetic organisms were also created by the contemporary chrome-cylons.

The human have the Lords of Kobol, some of the Cylons believe in the one true God, and some of both are athiest. But, we still have several apparent paranormal experiences in the series that could eventually be explained by God or left as loose-ends when the series ends.

Maybe they're all going to find Shokaree (whatever heaven was called in STV)
Edited by Hoss, Feb 17 2009, 09:44 AM.
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Admiralbill_gomec
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Has there been a rational explanation for why Colonel Tigh is apparently 60 years old and has known Adama for 40 years? Looking back to the first season, Caprica Six was fascinated by emotions. I seem to be missing something, unless this is an unaddressed plot hole.
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Dwayne
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All I've read suggests Tigh and Adama met after the First Cylon War, and not during it. Tigh and the other four showed up at the end of the First Cylon War and were instrumental in stopping that war, as we learned in last weeks episode.

As well, everything I've read about Tigh says he's about 70 and not 60, but that doesn't really matter. The real question, which I cannot find a clear answer on, is exactly how long Tigh and Adama have known each other.
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Ok, you are in a ragtag fleet of survivors fleeing from a superior force....

Would it not make you nervous to find out that the head of the military is sleeping with the head of the civilian government and his son was being groomed to replace her as defactor leader ....

Just asking. :lol:

Were it not a plot device, I would think that a commander who is searching everywhere for good pilots to defend the fleet in a crisis situation would have responded to Apollo's decision to resign with "Hell no!"

Also, is there any manufacturing going on in this fleet? Commerce?

Where does one suddenly find a wardrobe of nicely tailored suits when you have always worn a uniform before?
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Dwayne
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Yes, I agree on Apollo. Seemed odd, but in the context of the story line, it seemed the old man had no choice really, and since resigning his commission Apollo has at least one time I know of, returned to the pilots chair.

As for manufacturing... absolutely, it is going on. Most notably, fuel, which we know about due to an episode involving fuel production and workers rights. There is an economy, as surely as there is an economy in any small town of 30,000 people.
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Hoss
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I wonder how Tigh and the others stopped the first war if they didn't know they were Cylons.
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Dwayne
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I don't want to put any spoilers out there, but during the first war, when the Five finally found the 12 Colonies of Kobal, they were quite aware they were Cylons. In fact, the Final Five (a misnomer if I ever heard one.) are the creators of the 7 models we are familiar, and their first model John (aka Cavil) eventually turned on the Five...

Watch last week's episode, No Exit, for details.
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I watched last week's episode.

So, Tigh and the gang, after stopping the war go into deep cover among the humans - so deep that they even forget that they are Cylons and believe that they are humans? We know that Boomer was a Cylon plant that did not consciously know her true nature, so it is possible, I suppose. Yet, they were all sub-consciously keyed into the impending attack and found thier way into the fleet.

And there is an eighth referred to, so it is no longer the 7, it is the 8. I wondered why Deana was No. 8.
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Feb 18 2009, 12:31 PM
I watched last week's episode.

So, Tigh and the gang, after stopping the war go into deep cover among the humans - so deep that they even forget that they are Cylons and believe that they are humans? We know that Boomer was a Cylon plant that did not consciously know her true nature, so it is possible, I suppose. Yet, they were all sub-consciously keyed into the impending attack and found thier way into the fleet.

And there is an eighth referred to, so it is no longer the 7, it is the 8. I wondered why Deana was No. 8.
The Final five were captured by Cavel, killed and resurrected. During their resurrection, Cavel wiped their minds and implanted false identities and memories.

It don't think the Final Five were privy to information of the pending attack. Cavel's imposed exile was to punish them for making the human Cylon in man's image. He thought it would be good for them to live among the humans and see how frail they were, first hand.

Deanna is a three, Sharon is an eight.

Starbuck must be the eighth Cylon. We cleary see her dead body on Earth. Maybe Daniel is really Danielle?
Edited by fireh8er, Feb 18 2009, 01:08 PM.
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Thanks for clearing some of that up. You clearly paid closer attention that I did.

Anyway, I get the feeling that Starbuck is something else, besides a Cylon.

So, Ellen being the fifth explain why the fifth wasn't in the fleet when the other 4 heard the music. Anyway, the 8th may not have responded as the 5 did to the music. Another Boomer type plant perhaps who doesn't know that they are a Cylon.

I also don't think that the 8th was on New Caprica as Cavil didn't pay any special attention to him/her the way he did the others. Starbuck was on New Caprica, but was the focus of Leoben for religious reasons. Cavil is a professed athiest, which is ironic because he was disguised as a preast among the humans.

It would seem to me that if this is a dead person, they would have need to have died before the resurection hub was destroyed (like Ellen), so that leaves out most people who have died recently.

Could be Baltar, I suppose. Could be Admiral Cain. Billy. Cain's first officer. Who knows.


They never have good viper scenes anymore like they did in the first few seasons.
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Dwayne
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It was clearly stated in the conversation between Cavil and Ellen that the Five created 8 Cylon humanoid models, but that out of jealousy, Cavil literally killed the whole Daniel line.
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Dwayne
Feb 18 2009, 01:39 PM
I remember that conversation. But, you have to remember that there were 12 human Cylon models. Sharon was the eighth model. Eight and five is thirteen, not twleve. Ron Moore may have something else under his sleeve.

If you any of you get a chance, listen to Ron Moore's Battlestar Galactica podcast on Itunes. It really helps to explain each episode.
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Dwayne
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Yes, I do and did.

All you need for an explanation: http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Humanoid_Cylon#Significant_Eight
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Thank you for the link to Battlestar Galactica Wiki. :thmup:
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