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| Dr. Noah | Jan 31 2008, 02:27 AM Post #1 |
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Sistertrek's Asian Correspondant
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I don't know if we already have a thread about this, I'm sure we do, but I finally caught up and thought it was worth a little discussion. I really like the show, Moore took a show that was written off as riding the Star Wars coattails for TV, and actually didn't really amount to much and made it a huge hit. The setting is really interesting and gritty. The last survivors of mankind, less than 50,000 on the run for their lives. I describe it to my friends as 24 in space. The many modern parallels are not lost on most of the viewership I think either. I like how the enemy could be anyone of them. It makes the paranoia very real, and mirrors a lot of the paranoia I hear and see from the media and government over the last few years. I like how they address the subject of torture, how it's easy to do when you look at those you torture as inhuman or subhuman. When the stakes are that high, I understand the militancy of the show, but what's interesting is how the atmosphere is portrayed, the dark sinister paranioa that we can't trust anyone, even ourselves. It's very timely. |
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| captain_proton_au | Jan 31 2008, 12:09 PM Post #2 |
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Yeah, sorry to be a whiner. But I got to the end of season 2 and I couldn't bring myself to watch it anymore Sets: Always dark and Gloomy, depressing Locations: Got sick of looking at the Canadian forests and quarries from SG1 and Smallville Acting: Olmos, Sarkoff and the Drunk XO guy are the only ones that made it seem A grade, Apollo, Helo and especially the girl that played Boomer gave it a B grade feel, Callis is exactly the type of actor you'd expect to see on a made for midday TV telemovie Story: Seriously, who makes a space serial with no Aliens? Theres less than 50,000 people some in the military anyway, yet we have a government, president, presidential elections and a badass presscore. The BSG economy makes no sense. And I've seen the Human vs AI thing too many times before I found (in the first two seasons anyway) the whole Number Sixx thing largely a cop out, as in "lets throw in some vague symbolic dream sequence thing so we dont have to write the dialogue for it, and make Sixx a (supposedly) hot blonde so at least the guys dont notice" If it wasnt for Sarkoff, don't think I would have lasted one season Sorry if that sounds a bit harsh |
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| Dr. Noah | Jan 31 2008, 01:14 PM Post #3 |
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No, that's okay. I'm glad to talk to someone about it. It's not really very popular here. As far as sci-fi without aliens, a lot of my favorite stuff is sci-fi without aliens. Firefly is outstanding and there aren't even robots in that. Planet of the Apes (the original movie series) also comes to mind. I know the story and the background is depressing, but we're talking about the potential end of the human race here. Bound to be a bit depressing. OK, 50,000 people is still a good chunk. There have got to be small towns where you're from. They all have their own local governments, elections, police force, and press. As for Number Six, they haven't fully explained all that yet, so I'm willing to wait for all the information before making a judgement on it, but I think it's kind of fun to have an insane character who frequently hallucinates on the show. It's strange and different and makes for good humor especially on a show where things are so intense humor is not easy to do. As for the acting, it's better than most episodes of TNG in my opinion. For some reason Troi, Crusher and Riker often come off as very artificial to me. But then again they had Stewart. What I like most is the characters. When you put characters into these extreme situations it really helps the development. I never liked Saul Tigh until the New Caprica stuff. Everything during and after that is gold to me. But hey, we all have our own tastes. |
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| RTW | Jan 31 2008, 02:19 PM Post #4 |
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I'm with ya Doc! We even agree about Number 6 and Saul Tigh. I liked Firefly too but not to the same degree. I really liked Jewel Staite's character in Firefly - much more than in SG Atlantis. |
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| RTW | Jan 31 2008, 02:20 PM Post #5 |
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I have a relevant image but you've probably seen it a dozen times.
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| ~Luthien~ | Jan 31 2008, 02:35 PM Post #6 |
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the reason why this show is so d*mn good is because it has a dark and depressing setting. I dont care where its been recorded even if it was in my own neighbourhood. The acting is good and I think this scifi show stands out BECAUSE it doesnt have any aliens in it. Its a creation mankind made and that creation now wants to kill them. Agreed not everyone in the show is a type a actor but most of them are very very good. |
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| fireh8er | Jan 31 2008, 04:24 PM Post #7 |
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I'm Captain Kirk!
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Noah, I am also into the show. I have Seasons One and Two on DVD. It's the best show on Televison. (I haven't seen Lost or Heroes Yet) I'm looking forward to Season 4 and the release of Season 3 on DVD. |
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| RTW | Jan 31 2008, 04:39 PM Post #8 |
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I always thought this was the reason: ![]()
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| captain_proton_au | Jan 31 2008, 09:35 PM Post #9 |
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:lol: |
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| ~Luthien~ | Feb 1 2008, 05:50 AM Post #10 |
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Little Sister Of Sistertrek
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that too
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| Hoss | Apr 21 2008, 08:01 AM Post #11 |
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My wife has an interesting theory about the final cylon. There was a napkin on the show from Joe's bar. But the strange thing about that was that the napkin had corners instead of the rest of the paper which has the corners cut off. So anyway, Joe is the final cylon. |
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| fireh8er | Apr 21 2008, 08:46 AM Post #12 |
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^^^ I thought that was weird as well. Maybe the fianal Cylon is made from the corners of all the paper.
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| Hoss | Apr 21 2008, 09:16 AM Post #13 |
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So, thinking about who the final Cylon is can be frustrating: Kira "Starbuck" Thrace: She would seem to be the most suspicious, having aparently returned from the dead, with her tatoo still intact I might add, but she is too obvious and would seem to me to fulfill some other roll, perhaps religious, that has yet to be revealed in the series. And also, her husband in a Cylon and I don't think that they would have married if they both were, just a thought. She has an excuse for not hearing the music that activate the other 4. But, I don't think that it is her. President Rosalyn: I don't think that it is her because she is in the visions or dreams with the #6, Hera, and Athena in the Opera house in which they look up and see the sillouettes of the final 5. So, that would seem to exclude her, I guess. She also has a cylon counterpart, Tory, so it seems that she needs to be human for balance. She had cancer and cylon/human hybrid blood cured her, it seems like if she were a cylon she wouldn't have cancer. She didn't hear "the music".I don't think that it is her. Admiral Adama: He has a long history of fighting the cylons in the first war and has children with, presumably a human. He also has a cylon counterpart or partner (or whatever) in Colonel Tigh. If he is the final cylon then Lee or Zack Adama is the first Cylon/human hybrid and they already said that Hera was. He didn't hear 'the music'. I don't think that it is him. Helo Agathon: He produced a baby, Hera, with a known Cylon. It is established that Cylons cannot procreate with other Cylons. Gaius Baltar: He is in visions with other Cylons, though so is Rosalyn. I don't know if this qualifies him or disqualifies him for Cylonhood. He has willfully and unwittingly aided Cylons. He didn't seem to respond to 'the music'. I just don't think that he is a Cylon; but rather the human betrayor is his part. Felix Gaeta: A possibility. Has not taken an incredibly large roll in season 3 and is barely sene this far in season 4. He did not respond to "the music". He is kind of a wild card, hates Baltar a little too much and I think that there is a possibility that it is him. Lee "Apollo" Adama: All the same arguements against Admiral Adama in reverse. He has a living witness that he was born human. Not him. Dualla: Another good possibility. She may seem to be Apollo's counterpart if they didn't split. She is a minor character though. A possibility, but she didn't respond to "the music". Admiral Cain: A long-shot. Seems like if she were a Cylon, that she would have been activated in the initial attack rather than surviving by chance and they wouldn't have needed the #6 sneaking aboard the Pegasus. Tom Zarek: An interesting possiblity with the excuse of not being on Galactica during "the music", so maybe no activated. Another person close to Rosalyn along with Tory though. Would be a nice irony, since this actor played a human in the original BSG. A possibility. Boxy: :lol: Please, No!!! Any other characters that were killed in a previous episode. Someone new. |
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| digifan2004 | Apr 21 2008, 09:17 AM Post #14 |
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Then you're missing quite a lot, CP. This series actually gotten better as it move through season three.
The confusion of how the colonists being on New Caparica was made clear in season three. Also the imprisonment of Starbuck and how she was convinced she had a baby with a cylon was brilliant. It also brought the sexual tension between her and Apollo into the spotlight. I like the way Adama handled Boomer and how he had forgiven her when he found out she was a cylon agent by trusting her with a very important assignment. Excellent writing, dramatic scenario, and character development continued to shine with RDM at the helm. I love the little comedy sketches at the end of every episode. They are worthy of stand up material. It's too bad this series is ending with season four. I think this excellent series will end in a similar way as DS9 - with a final story arc that will answer all the questions, leaving a flashback sequence to wrap things up in the finale. :lol: |
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| Hoss | Apr 21 2008, 09:26 AM Post #15 |
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Also, the 3 of the final 5 Cylons held their secret meeting aboard Galactica in this last episode in Weapons Locker 1701D. The final one must be Admiral Cain AKA Ensign Ro who serve aboard the NCC 1701D. That's it!!!! |
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This series actually gotten better as it move through season three.
The confusion of how the colonists being on New Caparica was made clear in season three. Also the imprisonment of Starbuck and how she was convinced she had a baby with a cylon was brilliant. It also brought the sexual tension between her and Apollo into the spotlight. I like the way Adama handled Boomer and how he had forgiven her when he found out she was a cylon agent by trusting her with a very important assignment.
I love the little comedy sketches at the end of every episode. They are worthy of stand up material. It's too bad this series is ending with season four. I think this excellent series will end in a similar way as DS9 - with a final story arc that will answer all the questions, leaving a flashback sequence to wrap things up in the finale. 
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