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| Do women different treatment in our legal system?; Sentencing Bias for women | |
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| Minuet | Jan 2 2008, 12:02 PM Post #16 |
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There is a legal difference between "statutory rape" and "sexual assault". They are two different crimes with different sentences attached to them. Do you have statistics on how long men who have engaged in statuatory rape have been held in prision? I think you need to provide statistics before declaring that women are treated differently. Don't compare to sexual assault - you must compare the same crime which is statuatory rape. |
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| RTW | Jan 2 2008, 03:32 PM Post #17 |
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![]() I quoted the relevant part of your post. I even removed your name to avoid this as I know how much it bothers you when I reply to you. Yet here we are. The main idea of my post was relevant to what I quoted. Did I quote a portion of your post that off-topic? Anyhoo, now instead of my two sentences that you consider off topic, we have FOUR additional posts. Can you keep it at four? My money says no. You're not a moderator anymore, and no matter how much you think otherwise, you're not my, nor any other member's, mother. You need to learn to let things go.
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| Minuet | Jan 2 2008, 04:57 PM Post #18 |
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You don't get it - do you? You quoted a part of the sentence in order to make it relevant to what YOU wanted to say. But in the process you took it completely out of context to what I was saying. My original comment was not a tangent - but after you took the half sentence and tangented it you have the unmitigated gall to say that I tangented first. And then you wonder why we can't get along. Buddy, next time don't quote me at all either in context or out of context. I cannot even fathom why you think removing my name changes anything. You have a screw loose if you think that makes it all ok. |
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| RTW | Jan 2 2008, 06:51 PM Post #19 |
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I don't get it? That's a hoot...Yep. Kind of explains why I took your name off it, doesn't it? Glad we can agree on this. Wow - you're really hot about that heinous accusation aren't you? Yep, your inability to let anything go pretty much explains it. Had anyone else made that comment this back and forth would never have happened. No matter how wide a berth I give you, you find something to snipe about. Geez, in all my time at Sister Trek no one else ever seemed to have a problem with quoting the part of a post relevant to the intended response. Maybe it IS just you....
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| Minuet | Jan 2 2008, 08:26 PM Post #20 |
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Didn't you recieve a warning recently when you quoted someone out of context? And I am not getting your point about taking my name off of it. Is that supposed to change the fact that it was me that you quoted?
My ORIGINAL statement
Oh gee - look at the highlighted statement. I was on topic. How about that. But your response to my request that you stay on topic was the following lie.
And of course instead of apologizing for your mistake you continue to make an a$$ of yourself.
Here is the comment that started this.
It was POLITELY worded and suggested that you start a new topic. It is YOU who is taking this personally and is unable to let go of the past. Had anyone else made the request that you stay on topic and start a new thread for your tangent I doubt that you would be reacting in such a childish and petulant manner
You really think no one else has never had a problem with your manner of posting
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| RTW | Jan 2 2008, 09:12 PM Post #21 |
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Too bad I don't have the reading skills to read all that. link Kind of a nice crutch to use as a time saver in a situation like this. Would you be happy if I removed the quotes and just added similar wording to my statement? How about, "I don't think people should get a break for attempted murder versus murder. Being a poor shot or otherwise incompetent shouldn't make a difference in sentencing." |
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| Minuet | Jan 2 2008, 09:14 PM Post #22 |
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I would still ask what that has to do with the question of how WOMEN are supposedly treated differently in the legal system. Your question has validity - it just has nothing to do with the topic. |
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| Franko | Jan 2 2008, 09:20 PM Post #23 |
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Moderator Comment Can we drop this argument please ? Now you've both derailed this thread, and i don't think it was necessary. I'll be deleting any further sparring after this comment. Continue |
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| Dr. Noah | Jan 2 2008, 10:21 PM Post #24 |
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Absolutely. I actually saw my sister flirt with a cop to get out of a ticket. I'll never forgive her. :lol: |
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| Sgt. Jaggs | Jan 2 2008, 10:35 PM Post #25 |
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How about a Voyager Movie
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Min You are right on with your distinction. My only intent in the topic is how I seem to percieve the topic generally, knee-jerk reaction. Like when you smell something and you have an idea what it is within 5 seconds before you try to prove the facts to yourself or anyone else. I may have lumpted two topics togethor on this one too.
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| Minuet | Jan 3 2008, 10:03 AM Post #26 |
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Jag - I was thinking about this a bit more and got to thinking how often men get away with statuatory rape without consequence. In particular I remember a story similar to the one Franko related. In my case one of my female classmates had an affair with a male teacher. That teacher should probably have been drummed out of the profession, at the very least. But instead when she reached the age of 18 he left his wife and married the student...... No penalty at all in that case. There are cases where women get lesser sentences then men - but then the same is true of some men getting lesser sentences then other men, or women, for the same crime. I think that one must look at all circumstances in those cases to ask why. In part it very well could be better manipulation of the juries. But I honestly don't think there is a gender based trend. |
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| Dandandat | Jan 3 2008, 10:21 AM Post #27 |
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Time to put something here
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That’s not an example of a man getting a lesser sentence. One has to be accused and then prosecuted before a sentence is given. In this case it seems this guy was nether accused or prosecuted, their for sentencing is not even an issue. On the subject, one need only look at family court and divorce court to see that woman are treated differently by the legal system. |
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| Minuet | Jan 3 2008, 02:40 PM Post #28 |
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Really - then why do the stats show that women consistently come out from divorce POORER then men. I think that you are having one of Jag's knee jerk reactions due to a few cases where men get the short end of the stick. Believe me - women usually end up with greater family responsibilities and less money after a divorce. |
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| Dandandat | Jan 3 2008, 02:41 PM Post #29 |
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Time to put something here
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What stats? What do you mean by "greater family responsibilities"? that they get to have more time with their children? I don’t see that as a bad thing. |
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| Minuet | Jan 3 2008, 02:47 PM Post #30 |
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I know that many men take on the responsiblility of joint custody. But many men also skip out and refuse to pay any child support. I don't think the divorce courts favour women. I think bad things happen to individual men and women because thier spouses are scum. |
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No questions. Go directly to trial.



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