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Topic Started: Apr 18 2007, 01:03 PM (1,890 Views)
~Luthien~
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We can all hug now but only if Noah can join ^^
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Spanky
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Well since he lives in asia it'll be really early for us and I don't know if I can get out of bed that early. :P
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~Luthien~
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True...but he hasnt made any posts in this thread whatsoever, shouldnt that be evidence enough that he doesnt want any arguments, or people interpretating his comments as arguments? I mean he handled it via PM instead of postin in this thread, and I wish people could see that he is a good man.

We all differ in opinion, we all have different views on politics. But we should be adult about it, respect one anothers opinion even if you disagree and just let them be, why start an argument over it? Let the political leaders of this world do it for them.

I really fail to see the need to attack a person for once political view or values.
what for instance if some new member comes onto this board and he is a Nazi follower...I bet everyone here would jump his neck. I do NOT agree with Nazi followers at all, infact Iam strongly against them, WWII is a piece of history that made a deep impact in me, even though i didnt live at that time. But i would never get angry with that person because thats not who i am, I would just express my opinion in how I think about it which in this case is, i disagree strongly and what happened to the jews was not only un human but horrifying and very very very non deserved, and if that person wants to be how he is then its not like we will be able to stop em. And why should we? His/hers time will come when he/she realizes he/she was wrong.

I just think its wrong to even argue in the political boards let alone take those arguments to boards such as these. Theres a reason I NEVER come onto the political boards, its not like Im not interested, I just cant stand fighting, and the fact that the fighting continued onto this board and my threads well it upsets me and makes me feel responsible, call me stupid call me selfish but Im not sick for no reason, I still have a long way to go onto getting better.
And thankfully most people here understand that.
And whenever someone is being treated unfairly I will stand up for that person, no matter who it is. Rowskid and I for example havent always been on the best of terms, but when I see someone being unfairly treated even if it were him, I would say something about it.

Sistertrek has stood up for me for 3 years now, its time I did something back.
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I think that what is important is always to focus on the issue at hand rather than directing that issue towards the person. In other words, making sure the discussion is as de-personalised as possible. This isn't an easy thing to do though, especially with emotive issues such as gun control, abortion, which are being discussed right now.

Having said that, IMO, a person's right to express their views without attack has limits. If someone came on any message board and started expressing Nazi views, damn right I'd have a go at them! Though additionally I hope the mod/admin team would deal with that poster.
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~Luthien~
Apr 19 2007, 07:46 PM
True...but he hasnt made any posts in this thread whatsoever, shouldnt that be evidence enough that he doesnt want any arguments, or people interpretating his comments as arguments? I mean he handled it via PM instead of postin in this thread, and I wish people could see that he is a good man.

We all differ in opinion, we all have different views on politics. But we should be adult about it, respect one anothers opinion even if you disagree and just let them be, why start an argument over it? Let the political leaders of this world do it for them.

I really fail to see the need to attack a person for once political view or values.
what for instance if some new member comes onto this board and he is a Nazi follower...I bet everyone here would jump his neck. I do NOT agree with Nazi followers at all, infact Iam strongly against them, WWII is a piece of history that made a deep impact in me, even though i didnt live at that time. But i would never get angry with that person because thats not who i am, I would just express my opinion in how I think about it which in this case is, i disagree strongly and what happened to the jews was not only un human but horrifying and very very very non deserved, and if that person wants to be how he is then its not like we will be able to stop em. And why should we? His/hers time will come when he/she realizes he/she was wrong.

I just think its wrong to even argue in the political boards let alone take those arguments to boards such as these. Theres a reason I NEVER come onto the political boards, its not like Im not interested, I just cant stand fighting, and the fact that the fighting continued onto this board and my threads well it upsets me and makes me feel responsible, call me stupid call me selfish but Im not sick for no reason, I still have a long way to go onto getting better.
And thankfully most people here understand that.
And whenever someone is being treated unfairly I will stand up for that person, no matter who it is. Rowskid and I for example havent always been on the best of terms, but when I see someone being unfairly treated even if it were him, I would say something about it.

Sistertrek has stood up for me for 3 years now, its time I did something back.

I agree with what you said. Everyone should be respected for his/her own beliefs, even if one disagrees with them. There really is no need to make an argument out of that. Some people like to do that, but keep that stuff in the politics sub forum, where the point is to have discussions. Don't ruin the fun for anyone else in kickback, like I said before, there's no need to drag others into an argument.

I myself would also stand up for anyone who I feel is being untreated unfairly, that's just something that's in my nature. And Luthien, most of us here understand your 'problems' and most of us know how far you've already come. It is the reason we stand up for you and say to you that you shouldn't feel responsible since you aren't responsible. It is the reason we stand up for you and say we're proud of what you've manage to achieve so far with your 'problems'.
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~Luthien~
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^^^

I know and Noah is one of those people and he gets attacked for it...and that is what makes me pissed off
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Yeah, it pisses me off too. I posted that rant of this morning with a reason. People jump to conclusions without knowing anything of the intentions of the one that gave the compliment.
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Wow, I'm away from the boards for a day and look what i miss. Don't apologize Luth, you've done nothing wrong. Some people enjoy arguing. In fact most people do. Its the degree/aggressiveness that differs.

I like to debate, and i don't mind debating with people in fact i find some subjects enlightening and intellectually stimulating, however, i do mind it when it turns into a series of personal attacks and grudge-fests.

But you are not the cause of arguments Luthien, if people feel like picking a fight they don't need any special catalyst, they just read what has been said and take opposite view.

Keep on posting, happy and care free! :woohoo:
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Apr 19 2007, 12:24 PM
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Apr 18 2007, 03:51 PM
Can we all hug now?  :(

Only if Rowskid puts his shirt on ;)

not for the hairy chest?


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If someone came on any message board and started expressing Nazi views, damn right I'd have a go at them! Though additionally I hope the mod/admin team would deal with that poster./quote]

I disagree, I beleive everyone has a right to any opinion. now if they act of that is where i have a problem.


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~Luthien~
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^^^


For the first time I agree with you Rowskid. However I wouldnt be so happy if that Nazi follower would start making propaganda and start arguments over his views. Everyones views should be respected whether you like em or not.

And personally a Nazi view is the LAST thing I will ever agree with, but still its a person who thinks that and a person deserves the same respect as every other person does.


Besides its not like you can change a Nazi follower into thinking differently anyways, theyre waaaay too agressive for that kind of stuff. They will think whatever they want, and I can know. In highschool I had a Nazifollower in my class.

I once hit him with a book even :blush: but that had nothing to do with him being a Nazi follower. He just couldnt stop bullying me and I didnt take it anymore.
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Sound like he got what was coming for him. (For the bullying of course.)
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~Luthien~
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^^^

Thats what my teacher said too :lol: it happened in her classroom
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Ah, yes, that's cool. :lol:

I once stood up against a bully and hit him square in the face, I had to stay after school for about a week or so. But at least he stopped bullying.
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I never got caught for hitting the bullies back in school. the bullies didn;t want to tattle becasue it'd ruin their reputation.
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It was elementary school and I was in the last grade (I believe it's called in English), I was so fed up that I got physical, which is something I never do. I really don't see the need anymore, except for occasions of self defence. But I've been fortunate enough to have never experienced it.
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