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Nagging Star Trek II problem
Topic Started: Feb 9 2007, 01:28 AM (1,113 Views)
Hoss
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digifan2004
Feb 9 2007, 01:25 PM
Hmmm. IIRC didn't Khan studied and memorized the entire Enterprise crew roster in Space Seed? :headscratch:

There' are other questions I would love to find answers to in this movie. We know the Enterprise had undergo a retrofit for eighteen months. If so, how did Khan knew exactly where to strike the ship?

Curiouser and curiouser I daresay. :whistle: :shrug:

From studying techinal data in the Reliant's data base???
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Fesarius
Feb 9 2007, 12:25 PM
Sam,

Ouch. ;)

Now you're in for it! :P :stirpot:
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Feb 9 2007, 12:26 PM
digifan2004
Feb 9 2007, 01:25 PM
Hmmm. IIRC didn't Khan studied and memorized the entire Enterprise crew roster in Space Seed?  :headscratch:

There' are other questions I would love to find answers to in this movie. We know the Enterprise had undergo a retrofit for eighteen months. If so, how did Khan knew exactly where to strike the ship? 

Curiouser and curiouser I daresay.  :whistle:  :shrug:

From studying techinal data in the Reliant's data base???

I'm pretty sure Key systems didn't get rearranged too much
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From studying techinal data in the Reliant's data base???

Hoss,

Maybe I was unclear. Khan was studying the technical manuals for the U.S.S. Enterprise (Spock says as much). I find it very feasible that Chekov's pic would be there. :)
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Anyway...one thing is perfectly clear...They thought it was the 6th Planet when it was only the 5th planet from the sun. :doh:
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Then maybe you should pick up the TNG novel, One of our Planets is Missing by Peter David in the New Frontier series. :lol: :P

AAR we now return to our regularly scheduled topic. :chin:












Such as it is. :angel: :indifferent:
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Feb 9 2007, 01:29 PM
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From studying techinal data in the Reliant's data base???

Hoss,

Maybe I was unclear. Khan was studying the technical manuals for the U.S.S. Enterprise (Spock says as much). I find it very feasible that Chekov's pic would be there. :)

So how do you explain Chekov also recognizing Khan and speaking to him as if they had met before?

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digifan2004
Feb 9 2007, 12:33 PM
Then maybe you should pick up the TNG novel, One of our Planets is Missing by Peter David in the New Frontier series. :lol: :P

AAR we now return to our regularly scheduled topic. :chin:












Such as it is. :angel: :indifferent:

From the sound of the title...it appears they could tell it was missing :lol:
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Can they just fly into a star system and do a quick scan and tell where everything is? It takes light from Jupiter over 4 hours to reach earth, so if they did some sort of scan, that might take a day or two for all of the signal returns. I don't know how that would work. It took us thousands of years between the discovery of Mars and the discovery of Pluto. ;) :lol:
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Feb 9 2007, 01:35 PM
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Feb 9 2007, 01:29 PM
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From studying techinal data in the Reliant's data base???

Hoss,

Maybe I was unclear. Khan was studying the technical manuals for the U.S.S. Enterprise (Spock says as much). I find it very feasible that Chekov's pic would be there. :)

So how do you explain Chekov also recognizing Khan and speaking to him as if they had met before?

:P

Wasn't there a bathroom incident that was off-camera in TOS? :P
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Feb 9 2007, 12:36 PM
Can they just fly into a star system and do a quick scan and tell where everything is? It takes light from Jupiter over 4 hours to reach earth, so if they did some sort of scan, that might take a day or two for all of the signal returns. I don't know how that would work. It took us thousands of years between the discovery of Mars and the discovery of Pluto. ;) :lol:

But this is Star Trek....Their sensors work fast on detecting planets...and as I said...this is Sta Trek...where Continuity and Physics take a back seat to plot development :lol:
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Well, in the Trekiverse the laws of physics doesn't seem to apply anywhere.

CIP we know Regula I was stationed over a planetoid but how did Kirk get the ship to the Metura Nebula that was suppose to be several light years away? :headscratch: What happen to the research station after Khan destroyed the Reliant? Was the newly formed Genesis Planet a short distance away from the Ceti Alpha star system? :shrug:

Questions and more questions. :blink:
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So how do you explain Chekov also recognizing Khan and speaking to him as if they had met before?

Minuet,

Well, as you intimate (correctly, I believe), we don't know that they met. What we do know is the Chekov recognizes Khan somehow. I have an explanation for this. Of course, you may not agree with it. :)

Sulu (or anyone else, for that matter) could have related the story to Chekov. There are other such incidents that have occurred in TOS that we have heard of (and that we have heard only alluded to), but have never actually seen. The Miletus is one such occurence, as are the victims whom were killed on Rigel VII that Boyce mentions to Pike in The Menagerie--the ones that Boyce tells Pike about in the context of him settings standards so high that no one--not even Pike himself--can meet. Additionally, Spock relates to Miss Kalomi his sightings on Berengaria 7, yet we never see them. So Chekov appears to recognize Khan, and yet we have no evidence other than that that he has actually met him. Maybe he has, and maybe he hasn't. For my own part, it is not important whether the two of them have met, only that somehow they know each other.

This is one explanation that works for me. :)
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:P

I knew you would have an answer. You always do.
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I always figured that Chekov could have been briefed on previous "Enterprise" missions and adventures upon joining the crew. This would include pictures no doubt.
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