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| Remastered: "Space Seed"; Episode for the week of 11/18/06 | |
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| Swidden | Nov 18 2006, 07:10 PM Post #1 |
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The next episode up is "Space Seed"! See Khan in his prime! And maybe, just maybe, we'll get a few more glimpses of the Botany Bay before he... Well if there's a chance that someone here has not seen this one ( :bang: ) I won't ruin it for you Tune in and watch it, then come back here and tell us what you thought of it. Hey, this one was the one episode deemed worthy of a big screen sequel. You owe it to yourself to revisit it and remind yourself why... (okay, yes, I am really trying to drum up more replies to these thread, sue me for being shameless!) |
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| fireh8er | Nov 19 2006, 12:06 AM Post #2 |
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This is one of favorite TOS episodes and I have been looking to seeing it remastered. They did a really good job on the Botany Bay. They showed it different angles and it looked cool when they set it adrift. Is it me or does the gold stuff have more glitter? I noticed that Khan sleeper suit seemed to be brighter. I noticed they same thing with the Gorn uniform. There are even more sparkles when they beam up. |
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| Swidden | Nov 19 2006, 12:12 AM Post #3 |
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I watched the original version earlier today. I'll let you know if that's the case with some of the more subtle effects. Digitally cleaning up the images alone seem to make many of the scenes seem sharper. |
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| Swidden | Nov 19 2006, 03:32 PM Post #4 |
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This is one of those episodes I never get tired of watching. The dialogue in it, and the performances as well, are some of the best of the series. The dinner table conversation with Khan. McGiver's later telling Khan she knows exactly who he is, "Leif Erikson, Richard the Lionhearted, Napolean; I don't know if you're going to like living in our century." Khan does not see himself as a villain. And unlike his depiction in STII:TWOK, he is clearly not insane. Even Kirk and and company, in discussing the era of Khan, admit that he was by far the least tyrranical of the genetically enhanced conquerors. Khan also tries very hard (well at least for him) to avoid killing and says plainly that anyone who joins him willingly would be treated well. Anyhow, on to my impressions of the remastered edition. The shots along side the Botany Bay were very well done. I don't think, referring to Fireh8er's comments above, that anything was done to make either the transporter beam effect or the gold colored mesh of some of the outfits on Khan's people to look more sparkly. Rather, I think this is more a result of how the lighting was tweaked a bit and and just a digital sharpening of the picture overall. The lighting aboard the Botany Bay when Kirk and the boarding party first go aboard did seem a bit darker. I do believe that in many of the reworked episodes that is one thing that they are tweaking a lot in an effort to create more of a feeling of depth to the sets. The scene where the Enterprise pulls away from Khan's was much better than what was there originally. I found myself wondering: "Was Khan's ship 'tumbling' the whole time and the Enterprise paralelling the tumble? Or was it the result of using a tractor beam?" Either way to see the Botany Bay begin to tumble as the Enterprise pulled away was a nice effect. The edits to make the episode fit in the alotted time were not too bad. My biggest disappointment there was the shortening of McCoy's first conversation with Khan while the latter is still lying in bed in sickbay. In the uncut version, after McCoy tells Khan that he "is in bed holding a knife at your doctor's throat," McCoy ignores Khan's next remark and proceeds to tell him where it would be most effective to cut if Khan's intent is to slice his throat. Which reminds me of another scene that has impressed me more in recent years. In the briefing room just after the screen showing Kirk being suffocated in a decompression chamber, Khan's flunkie is about to strike Uhura across the face for the second time. She has been hit solidly by this guy once already, but instead of flinching or trying to get out of the way she jumps up from her chair. She's not coming in with her fists raised but that little bit I think speaks volumes about Uhura's own internal fortitude. That would seem, to me, something a bit uncommon for tv in 1966/67; women were expected to be more shrinking violets than display any toughness. |
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| fireh8er | Nov 19 2006, 08:20 PM Post #5 |
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Agreed, that was a shame they cut it out.
The scenes with the Botany Bay were excellent. I loved it when the Enterprise cut it lose and it began to tumble. This morning I got up and looked through the book The Art of Star Trek and found pictures of Matt Jefferies original sketcks of the Botany Bay. They did a wonderful job with it.
Agreed. I watched the original this morning. |
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| UncleSlickhead | Mar 14 2007, 08:26 PM Post #6 |
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I've been watching the Re-mastered Original Series from the beginning, and while the redone visual effects and enhanced picture quality are all well and good, what I continue to find amazing is just how well the show holds up after going-on 40 years. 'Space Seed' is the best example so far. When I was a kid, I liked it (Khan was pretty ominous and cool), but there were no space battles or phaser fights or giant planet eating space ships. There were a lot of episodes like that in the original series. Kids want flash over susbstance. Now that I'm all grown up, I can appreciate the actual plots (as well as some of the acting) of the shows I watched as a kid, and as a writer I can appreciate how well written a lot of the shows were. And now a lot of the flashy episodes that I liked as a kid are some of my least favorite. I think Khan represents the best of Star Trek overall. He's the greatest villain Kirk ever faced. The story in which he appears is even better than Ellison's 'City on the Edge of Forever'. Ricardo Montalban gives one of the best performances by a guest star in the history ot the franchise. And someone later had the idea to revive the Khan storyline for STII, which is arguably the best film in the franchise. 'Space Seed' is super cool and sweet. |
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| fireh8er | Mar 15 2007, 02:34 AM Post #7 |
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Amen Brother!
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