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Do you believe in hell?; Please read below.
Topic Started: Aug 19 2005, 06:05 AM (1,128 Views)
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psyfi, thanks for this explaination. Do Jewish folks still believe in animal sacrifice? Yo-Yo?
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It is not practiced today as there is no temple or ritual purity. But Jews still study in depth the law and practices.

Sacrifice in Judaism is very different from the common idea of sacrifice (aztec or what not). G-d does not need a cow or blood. What on earth would he need it for? A sacrifice in Judiasm is more towards the idea of sacrificing your property as a sign of thanks/repentance/other to g-d. It is basically a barbeque as the sacrificed animal is roasted on the altar fire and then the offerer is required to eat the roast and finish it by morning. What ever is not finished is burnt to ash.

However it is not like you sin, offer an offering and all is forgiven. An offering for a sin is the conclusion of the process of repentance.

To be be forgiven for a sin and not be punished by g-d a person must do three things:
-Repentance
-Prayer
-Donation

Donation depending on the sin may either be charity or a sacrifice

Repentance is comprise of three requirements.
-Regret (including correcting the sin - e.g. returning stolen money with penalties).
-Decision not to commit the sin again (may include the required punishement at the hands of the court depending on the sin)
-Admittance. (depending on the sin admittance may be required in public or to a freind).
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Aug 24 2005, 02:08 AM
It is not practiced today as there is no temple or ritual purity. But Jews still study in depth the law and practices.

Sacrifice in Judaism is very different from the common idea of sacrifice (aztec or what not). G-d does not need a cow or blood. What on earth would he need it for? A sacrifice in Judiasm is more towards the idea of sacrificing your property as a sign of thanks/repentance/other to g-d. It is basically a barbeque as the sacrificed animal is roasted on the altar fire and then the offerer is required to eat the roast and finish it by morning. What ever is not finished is burnt to ash.

However it is not like you sin, offer an offering and all is forgiven. An offering for a sin is the conclusion of the process of repentance.

To be be forgiven for a sin and not be punished by g-d a person must do three things:
-Repentance
-Prayer
-Donation

Donation depending on the sin may either be charity or a sacrifice

Repentance is comprise of three requirements.
-Regret (including correcting the sin - e.g. returning stolen money with penalties).
-Decision not to commit the sin again (may include the required punishement at the hands of the court depending on the sin)
-Admittance. (depending on the sin admittance may be required in public or to a freind).

Repentance and prayer are also huge elements in New Testament acceptance of Jesus as a sacrifice.
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To me, Jesus is the only one I know of who has overcome death.


Elijah the prophet overcame death. He rose to a spiritual plane high enoug that death was not a factor for him.

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Repentance and prayer are also huge elements in New Testament acceptance of Jesus as a sacrifice


That what i dont get. Granted even Jewish tradition a righteous man can die to atone for the a world that has sinned too much. THis can be the case for Jesus. But in Judiasm thats where it ends. He died saved the world from its sins over running it, okay, lets say. But that does not apply to the future. He died and a sacrificed lamb cannot be reoffered.

Also are you garanteeing that if one truly accepts Jesus and his sacrifice they will be forgiven from sin?
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Repentance and prayer are also huge elements in New Testament acceptance of Jesus as a sacrifice


That what i dont get. Granted even Jewish tradition a righteous man can die to atone for the a world that has sinned too much. THis can be the case for Jesus. But in Judiasm thats where it ends. He died saved the world from its sins over running it, okay, lets say. But that does not apply to the future. He died and a sacrificed lamb cannot be reoffered.

Also are you garanteeing that if one truly accepts Jesus and his sacrifice they will be forgiven from sin?

This guarantee is what the NT teaches. Now it doesn't then say that it is okay to go around and just sin wildly and lists many ways in which the mind must now be renewed to the new spiritual state the sacrifice has provided. What is interesting to me is that this aspect of all sins being forgiven actually comes, in some measure (although not all) from the Old Testament, specifically Isaiah 53:4-6. Also remember this is a new covenant, associated with the old but with an expanded notion of sacrifice and what can and cannot be atoned by it.
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