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| ~Luthien~ | Aug 18 2005, 03:41 PM Post #16 |
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yesh and also she finds it too bloody and aggressive,they filmed it a little bit too realistic for her taste. I dont find it a bad movie i just dont want to watch it cuz bcuz i believe it has really happened it scares the hell out of me. |
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| who | Aug 18 2005, 03:51 PM Post #17 |
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Fesarius, interesting. I have read a version of the Bhagavad Gita. A PATH WITH HEART is written by an American that spent a great deal of time in India. I was on a retreat that the author and Stan Grof were leading. Gangaji (a name given to her in India who led several silent retreats I went to) is an American woman who spent a great deal of time in India. Her site has her books, books by her tearchers and students. Thomas Merton was a Catholic monk who lived in a monestary in Kentucky until he died a few decades ago. A Course in Miracles is Christian and is often said to be a combination of Christianity, Buddhism, and psychology. |
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| Fesarius | Aug 18 2005, 04:31 PM Post #18 |
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Who, I know a little about Thomas Merton--isn't he a Christian mystic, along the lines of Teilhard de Chardin (the French Jesuit) et al. of that ilk? I think it was Merton who helped the East and West (in spiritual and philosophical circles, at least) to converse more efficiently and to think more critically about their tenets. |
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| Swidden | Aug 18 2005, 04:41 PM Post #19 |
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Yes, he does make reference in his book to it. However, Dyer's approach is very non-denominational. More Universalist in some ways. He does not come from a perspective of a single faith but rather numerous faiths and philosophies. Though he does this, he takes a very spiritual approach and allows the reader to define God for onself. |
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| psyfi | Aug 18 2005, 05:11 PM Post #20 |
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Yes, I have seen a few talks given by Dyer on PBS. I like him quite a bit. |
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| psyfi | Aug 18 2005, 05:14 PM Post #21 |
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I also believe the crucifixion happened and I also can't watch the movie because it just disturbs me too much. In any case, I do think that the focus should be on the resurrection, not the crucifixion. |
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| who | Aug 18 2005, 07:07 PM Post #22 |
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I understand that Mel either has or is about to release the movie again in a less violent version. I believe it too and I suspect the real thing was more violent than the movie. The violence did not bother me. I found it inspiring. If Jesus could do this for God then we should be able to do our part as well. I am still amazed at the echo of Jesus and the impact he has had through the ages including today. |
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| who | Aug 18 2005, 07:11 PM Post #23 |
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I have read of Teilhard de Chardin but cannot remember much or where I read it. It has been some time since I read all of Merton's books. I do not know if Merton considered himself a mystic. When I was reading Merton I was also reading "A Course in Miracles" and they seemed to be saying the same in their own way. |
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| Fesarius | Aug 18 2005, 09:39 PM Post #24 |
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Teilhard de Chardin is IMO brilliant. His works always inspire and challenge my thinking. Besides the aforementioned Ouspensky, I also love the writings of Dietrich Bonhoeffer (esp. Letters From Prison) and Jacques Ellul (the latter wrote IMO the very best work on the book of Revelation I've ever read). |
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| psyfi | Aug 19 2005, 01:09 AM Post #25 |
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I don't think that it is his echo that has or is having an impact. I think that it is him still working with people toward the goal of our Salvation which I define as wholeness of body, mind, and soul. |
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| Franko | Aug 19 2005, 03:17 AM Post #26 |
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Yup. The only modern Christian intellectual that could send Stephen J. Gould into therapy. I'm always interested in someone whose ideas were deemed dangerous to traditional religious dogma and to atheistic scientific doctrines both at the same time. I don't think that anyone has ever pulled that off before. Brief overview of De Chardin... By now, Chardin's conceptualism has become more integrated into today's current world of theology and scientific thought. He likely won't be truly appreciated though for about another, oh, hundred years. |
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| Fesarius | Aug 19 2005, 08:32 AM Post #27 |
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Agreed.
Incorrect.* *You neglected to mention the other, Franko of SisterTrek--not to be confused with the medieval music theorist and composer, Franko of Cologne.
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| Fesarius | Aug 19 2005, 08:45 AM Post #28 |
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This will probably be one of my favorite spiritual books when I eventually get a copy of it. I have been inquiring about Newton's work (specifically on the book of Revelation) for years, and until only recently began to think it was a myth. Such a great scientific mind, and such a strong belief in God. http://www.apologeticspress.org/articles/2614 Two excerpts caught my eye: He studied Hebrew scholarship and ancient and modern theologians at great length, and became convinced that Christianity had departed from the original teachings of Christ. He felt unable to accept the current beliefs of the Church of England, which was unfortunate because he was required as a Fellow of Trinity College to take holy orders. Happily, the Church of England was more flexible than the Catholic Church in these matters, and King Charles II issued a royal decree excusing Newton from the necessity of taking holy orders! Actually, to prevent this being a wide precedent, the decree specified that, in perpetuity, the Lucasian professor need not take holy orders. (The current Lucasian professor is Stephen Hawking.) [1995]. Newton was a serious student of the Scriptures. But we are only now learning just how serious. The Newton Project has published, for the first time, a 300,000-word interpretation of the book of Revelation that Newton wrote in the late seventeenth century. In reporting on the released writings, Nature writer Geoff Brumfiel noted: “Newton’s religious writings constitute more than half of his entire written work” (2004, 430:819). I can't even fathom a 300,000 word interpretation of the book of Revelation. This link on the Newton Project contains some fascinating material. www.newtonproject.ic.ac.uk |
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| who | Aug 19 2005, 11:34 AM Post #29 |
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I find this reference an interesting read. We have often discussed science and religion here. It appears clear that he had spiritual experiences and tried to integrate science and religion. Some excerpts:
As I continue to read I do not agree with all of his views. I find it interesting that he describes science as a substitute religion as I have said. |
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| ~Luthien~ | Aug 19 2005, 11:35 AM Post #30 |
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I agree and now that part I could watch on tv
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