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Poker
Topic Started: Aug 15 2005, 04:38 PM (395 Views)
gdog243
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Fesarius
Aug 16 2005, 06:20 AM
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Poker kind of loses its appeal a bit, if there is nothing to risk. Maybe that is just me, but when I am playing for nothing but fun, I start taking all sorts of stupid risks because it doesn't matter.

I agree with this, for the most part. It's especially true when I am playing Poker with our children. It can be played for fun, but without risk, something is lacking. With our children we just see who has piled up the most chips by the end of the night, and that person is the big 'winner.' :D

Wesley's reaction to being bluffed by Riker intimates (to me) that he lost something quite valuable to him, although I have no idea what it could be.

I've only played Poker once, and it was for fun which I had. It helps learning the game, and learning how to bluff if you are actually not playing for money or anything like that.
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Gdog,

It's kind of difficult to bluff with any success, though, if one is not playing for stakes. But I too agree that it can be fun just to play the game.
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Simon
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Unless you happen to be playing strip poker instead ;-), poker without money is just no fun.

In one episode though they were playing on the basis that if the men won the women would dye their hair, if the men lost they had to shave. While that's a stupid bet really, maybe they work on that kind of pointless basis all the time? :unsure:
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Aug 16 2005, 02:48 AM
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Aug 15 2005, 06:57 PM
After all, they got all of their food, clothing or anything else they needed for free (i.e. had access to replicators).  Even in Ten Forward, they never seemed to indicate that credits were used or needed to obtain food/drink. I don't think there was ever a need to bargain for holodeck privileges.  There always seemed to be one free whenever one was needed.  :lol:

Isn't it possible that the ships computer, which seemed to do a very good job of keeping track of the crew at all times, might not have also simultaneously automatically debited their accounts?

There was commercial a couple of years back that featured a guy in trench coat walking into a store and grabbing all sorts of food items before walking out. A security guard comes after him but only to return some item he dropped, not to arrest him for shoplifting. The jist of the commercial was that in a few years smart technology will eliminate grocery store check out lines. My guess is that by the 24th century they've done that. All they've really eliminated is the actual transfer of currency or some other physical means needed to debit the account. Since it's all automatic, there is no point or need to discuss the actual transaction.

Definitely a possibility. Especially since the issue was glossed over on TNG. Leaves a lot to the imagination. :D
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Sophie
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I have no idea how to play poker :lol:
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Aug 17 2005, 12:47 AM
I have no idea how to play poker :lol:

You are hereby invited to my next game. Brings about $50.
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Fesarius
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That should about cover the ante. ;)
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Sophie
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what's an ante?
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Fesarius
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Correct. ;)

It's what you put into the pot before you begin to play the hand. That's why you will hear players say 'ante up.'
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Hoss
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Not to be confused with a blind or straddle.
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Hoss,

Please explain. I've not heard those terms before--are they part of Hold'Em?
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The Blind bet is when the person or persons directly to the left of the dealer are required to put in a bet or portion of a bet before the cards are dealt. For instance, the first person to the dealer's left may be the 'small blind' and put in half a bet and the second person to the dealer's left may be the 'big blind' and be forced to put in a full bet. In structured limit poker, the bet refers to the required bet or raise. In pot-limit, no-limit, spread-limit this is usually some predetermine bet.

The straddle, is generally referring to a structured limit game in which the third person from the dealer's left is required to put in a blind raise. There can also be double-straddles and more if you like.

The whole point of all this is to increase the chances that there will be some action in the hand.

In casinos, the small and big blind may have the option of 'chopping', or just taking their blinds back if they don't want to play and want to avoid the 'rake'.

Glossary
Structured Limit: In Texas Hold'em, all betting and raising before the turn card is a set amount. All betting and raising after the turn card is a set amount generally twice the amount before the turn.

Spread Limit: In Texas Hold'em, there is a maximum limit on bets and raises, but the player can bet a smaller amount than the limit if desired. Generally a raise must be at least double the price of calling.

Pot-limit: Texas Hold'em, the player may bet or raise up to the amount that is currently in the pot. This serves the purpose of progressively allowing the pot to get larger without allowing someone to just buy it in the beginning by moving all in. If raising, the call is included in the pot and the raiser can raise the pot + his call.

No-Limit: Texas Hold'em, there is no limit to betting or raising except how many chips you have.

Rake: Casino house cut of the pot, usually not taken until after a flop.

Texas Hold'em: After everyone has there two 'down cards', there is a round of betting. The top card off the deck is then discarded and there are then 3 'community' cards dealt face up; this is called 'the flop'. There is then another round of betting. The top card off the deck is then discarded and a fourth community card is then dealt face up; this is called 'the Turn Card' or 'Fourth Street'. There is another round of betting. The top card off the deck is then discarded and a fifth and final community card is dealt face up; this is called 'the River Card' or 'Fifth Street'. Another round of betting and whomever wins takes the pot. The winner is the person who can make the best hand (5 cards) out of his 2 down cards and the 5 community cards.

Best to worst hands:

  • Straight Flush
  • Four of a Kind
  • Full House
  • Flush
  • Straight
  • Three of a Kind
  • Two Pair
  • One Pair
  • High Card
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Fesarius
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And the highest straight flush (of which I have had thirteen in my life w/o wild cards) is the Royal Flush (which I have never had).

38957,

Thanks--neat info. there. Only one error:

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Glossary

Ought to read, 'Hossary.' ;)
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Fesarius
Aug 17 2005, 04:19 PM
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And the highest straight flush (of which I have had thirteen in my life w/o wild cards) is the Royal Flush (which I have never had).

38957,

Thanks--neat info. there. Only one error:

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Glossary

Ought to read, 'Hossary.' ;)

:doh:

Careful or this thread may go straight into the toilet and have to be flushed.
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Fesarius
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That would not be good. The toilet would probably become clogged, and then we would have to poker to unclog it. ;)
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