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Bush Appoints Bolton as US Ambassadar to UN
Topic Started: Aug 1 2005, 09:11 AM (788 Views)
Dr. Noah
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His actions or the 105th making an international circus out of it?
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Admiralbill_gomec
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gvok
Aug 1 2005, 12:43 PM
The guy is off kilter AB. I'm not the only one who thinks so.

Oh, yeah, I forgot that Noah thinks so, too... :rotfl:

We'll all reconsider now.
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Admiralbill_gomec
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Dr. Noah
Aug 1 2005, 01:20 PM
Yes, I am glad we have sent our best possible example of a even tempered diplomat to represent us in the world.

You mean a leftist bootlicker? No thanks. We don' need no steenkin' Maddy Albrights.
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Mainiac
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I look forward with great enthusiasm to eighteen months of triumphant press releases from our delegation at the U.N.

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who
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I found it interesting on the news today when Kofi Annan was asked about the appointment. He responded that he would be only 1 voice out of 191. The US should be not taxed without representation. Perhaps the US should fund the UN equal to its representation there or 1/191 of the UN's expenses.
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Swidden
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This could all have been avoided if he had been given an up or down vote...

Who knows, he might surprise everyone...
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Wichita
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ds9074
Aug 1 2005, 05:30 PM
This strikes me as an underhand way of operating, to bypass the legislature in effect because its not giving the right answer or at least not quickly enough. This man will be representing the USA at the United Nations not the Republican party at the United Nations, and if I was a US citizen I would be concerned that the President had made such a partisan move. Surely a more unifying and consensus based approach would have been to nominate someone who Congress could have confidence in?

Anyway not my country!  :rolleyes:

Of course it is, DS9074.

However, it's also been standard operating procedure for several (6 - 8??)administrations now .... The party who did it last always howls about the party who does it next. It's one of the quirks in our system ...

You'd thinks simply voting on the issue would be easier.

I remember Clinton once declared large tracks of land in Utah (and Nevada, I think) to be protected national land. He made his announcement from Arizona.

Why? There were referundums on the ballots in those states for the managment of that land and it looked like the "wrong" viewpoint was going to win. Clinton's action nullified the vote. An announcement from Utah would not have been well received.

It was such an interesting twist of logic that they actually incorporated his rationale in an episode of West Wing.

Did Clinton "save" the land from what some thought would be "overuse" by the public? Yes, he did.

Don't look too closely, however, at who got permits (at rock bottom prices) to build luxury homes on public land though. ;)

I think the UN has proved itself pretty unimportant in its response to the carnage in the Sudan and Zimbabwe. IMO that makes the question of who we appoint as ambassador equally unimportant.

Before this, how many could name the US ambassador to the UN? (No fair, don't Google it .... :lol: )

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captain_proton_au
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I saw the title of this thread and thought for a minute they were going to appoint Michael Bolton
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Swidden
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Doubt it would do anything to help his record sales...
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gvok
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Admiralbill_gomec
Aug 1 2005, 04:26 PM
gvok
Aug 1 2005, 12:43 PM
The guy is off kilter AB.  I'm not the only one who thinks so.

Oh, yeah, I forgot that Noah thinks so, too... :rotfl:

We'll all reconsider now.

Why do you feel Bush had to make a recess appointment? Republican Senator Voinovich also declined to support Bolton for the reasons I have stated.
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Admiralbill_gomec
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gvok
Aug 2 2005, 06:33 AM
Admiralbill_gomec
Aug 1 2005, 04:26 PM
gvok
Aug 1 2005, 12:43 PM
The guy is off kilter AB.  I'm not the only one who thinks so.

Oh, yeah, I forgot that Noah thinks so, too... :rotfl:

We'll all reconsider now.

Why do you feel Bush had to make a recess appointment? Republican Senator Voinovich also declined to support Bolton for the reasons I have stated. But you'll probably say Voinovich is actually a Democrat, right?



Edit: You responded before I got to Gvok's comments, but I'll edit yours as well.
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Wichita
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I think its a good question:

Why does any president feel the need to make recess appointments?

Does he subvert the concept of separation of powers inherent in the Constitution or is Congress subverting the separation of powers by failing to act - one way or another - on those responsibilities that are theirs?
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Admiralbill_gomec
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Aug 2 2005, 07:42 AM
I think its a good question:

Why does any president feel the need to make recess appointments?

Does he subvert the concept of separation of powers inherent in the Constitution or is Congress subverting the separation of powers by failing to act - one way or another - on those responsibilities that are theirs?

How many recess appointments have been made by recent presidents?
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gvok
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We're talking about Bolton and why he couldn't get appointed through normal chanels. It's not just because I think he's a nut job as you stated earlier.
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Admiralbill_gomec
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gvok
Aug 2 2005, 08:01 AM
We're talking about Bolton and why he couldn't get appointed through normal chanels. It's not just because I think he's a nut job as you stated earlier.

Then why would they deny him an simple "up or down" vote? Wouldn't that (in your mind) validate what you claim? Nope, you're afraid that he would have been confirmed.
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