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"War on Terror" or "Struggle Against Extremism"; Which name is better?
Topic Started: Aug 1 2005, 08:01 AM (530 Views)
Admiralbill_gomec
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Aug 1 2005, 08:20 AM
Admiralbill_gomec
Aug 2 2005, 12:18 AM
Interesting that a common Arabic word for struggle is "jihad."

Source ?

Arabic people from Saudi Arabia and Yemen? You know, actual speakers of the language?
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Dandandat
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I picked "Both names are equally good" they sound the same to me.
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Dandandat
Aug 1 2005, 10:42 AM
I picked "Both names are equally good" they sound the same to me.

Agreed. I wonder why they decided to change it. It reminds me a little of 1984 in a way.
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Dandandat
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gvok
Aug 1 2005, 12:33 PM
Dandandat
Aug 1 2005, 10:42 AM
I picked "Both names are equally good" they sound the same to me.

Agreed. I wonder why they decided to change it. It reminds me a little of 1984 in a way.

Change often breaths new life into a project even if its only a superficial change. People get board and simple changes keeps them interested. Happens quite often in the corporate world, while the underling goals (which can stretch for many years) of the company do not change, often you will find a new slogan or banner for the project so that it does not get stale in the minds of the people. I suspect this is the intention of the change.
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Dr. Noah
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Or often, corporations will change thier name if they greatly wrong a community so that the appearance of it being under new management is created.
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Dandandat
Aug 1 2005, 11:41 AM
gvok
Aug 1 2005, 12:33 PM
Dandandat
Aug 1 2005, 10:42 AM
I picked "Both names are equally good" they sound the same to me.

Agreed. I wonder why they decided to change it. It reminds me a little of 1984 in a way.

Change often breaths new life into a project even if its only a superficial change. People get board and simple changes keeps them interested. Happens quite often in the corporate world, while the underling goals (which can stretch for many years) of the company do not change, often you will find a new slogan or banner for the project so that it does not get stale in the minds of the people. I suspect this is the intention of the change.

I'm not so sure about that. I think the name change suggests a change in strategy.
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Dandandat
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gvok
Aug 1 2005, 12:42 PM
Dandandat
Aug 1 2005, 11:41 AM
gvok
Aug 1 2005, 12:33 PM
Dandandat
Aug 1 2005, 10:42 AM
I picked "Both names are equally good" they sound the same to me.

Agreed. I wonder why they decided to change it. It reminds me a little of 1984 in a way.

Change often breaths new life into a project even if its only a superficial change. People get board and simple changes keeps them interested. Happens quite often in the corporate world, while the underling goals (which can stretch for many years) of the company do not change, often you will find a new slogan or banner for the project so that it does not get stale in the minds of the people. I suspect this is the intention of the change.

I'm not so sure about that. I think the name change suggests a change in strategy.

form what to what?
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Dandandat
Aug 1 2005, 11:45 AM
gvok
Aug 1 2005, 12:42 PM
Dandandat
Aug 1 2005, 11:41 AM
gvok
Aug 1 2005, 12:33 PM
Dandandat
Aug 1 2005, 10:42 AM
I picked "Both names are equally good" they sound the same to me.

Agreed. I wonder why they decided to change it. It reminds me a little of 1984 in a way.

Change often breaths new life into a project even if its only a superficial change. People get board and simple changes keeps them interested. Happens quite often in the corporate world, while the underling goals (which can stretch for many years) of the company do not change, often you will find a new slogan or banner for the project so that it does not get stale in the minds of the people. I suspect this is the intention of the change.

I'm not so sure about that. I think the name change suggests a change in strategy.

form what to what?

I'm not sure. I've adopted a wait and see approach.
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ds9074
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If there was a change of name from "war on terror" to "struggle against extremism" I would hope it would indicate something substantive. Hopefully it would be a recognition that while the goals remain the same (the eradication of extremist terrorist organisations) the strategy needs adaptation.

There needs to be a stronger recognition that there isnt going to be a purely military "solution" to the problem. There needs to be work on security at home and building alliances abroad which will be useful in constraining the activities of terror. I know that this has been going on but a change of name would give this aspect of the struggle greater recognition and more emphasis than it currently gets because it is equally vital.

Just think for a minute about Pakistan. We are on good terms with the Government there and they are assisting us as far as they dare go in shutting down the extremist institutions without risking provoking an internal uprising. Just think if they were to fall to a Taliban style system. The Taliban with a nuclear arsenal - and that shows you how vital that one single alliance is.
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ImpulseEngine
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The name change is designed to redirect the focus from that of a military issue to one of ideology and therefore more inclusive.

As for whether the new name accomplishes that, I'm not certain.
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Dandandat
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ImpulseEngine
Aug 1 2005, 01:33 PM
The name change is designed to redirect the focus from that of a military issue to one of ideology and therefore more inclusive.

As for whether the new name accomplishes that, I'm not certain.

has it not been a ideology issue all along?
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Mainiac
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I prefer War on Terror if we must hang a moniker on it - it abbreviates better in RW conversation.

Plus I suspect that "extremism" is Bushspeak for "Disagreement with US policy". ;)
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Swidden
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I cannot vote in this poll as there is no "Other" option...

If there were an "Other" option, I would suggest that we call it "Fred." I would have suggested "Bob," however that name is currently being considered as the new proper name for our sun.
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Mainiac
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^ :spank:

You are clearly not treating this topic with the gravity it deserves, swidden!

:rotfl:
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I assure you gravity is foremost on my mind...
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