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| 24thcenstfan | Jul 28 2005, 08:11 AM Post #16 |
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Something Wicked This Fae Comes
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If you say so. |
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| psyfi | Jul 28 2005, 08:29 AM Post #17 |
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I agree about G-d being a term of respect. You are not going to find a man more spiritual or religious than the very orthodox Gershon Solomon of the Temple Mount Faithful. In 1958, in a battle with the Syrian Army, Salomon was injured accidentally. During this time, he was filled with the Presence of God even as a gang of Syrian soldiers, who were trained to shoot "again" any wounded Israeli soldiers, ran up to finish him off. He said he didn't have a moment of fear because he was so completely consumed by the love and power and presence of God. However, the soldiers came up to him, made a bunch of noise and fled. He didn't think much about it until a year or two later when he spoke to one of the Syrians that had been there that day. They told him that they ran because between them and him they saw thousands of angels. Anyway, he ALWAYS uses the term "G-d" and it is out of utter love and respect. That being said I totally agree with you about people in general wanting to X God out of stuff like it was a dirty word. I think it is part and parcel of the whole PC mentality and fear of offense. Fear of offense is what ought to be rooted out, if you ask me. I have to agree with 24 however. Judgment Day is God's Judgment, not ours and we shouldn't act like we know who will and who won't get the nod. That is just plain arrogance. |
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| 8247 | Jul 28 2005, 10:58 AM Post #18 |
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If it is a sign of respect, then I apologize. I admitted not knowing anything about Judisiam. I will say that from my standpoint, it doesnt seem like one. |
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| gvok | Jul 28 2005, 11:16 AM Post #19 |
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I don't know what you are talking about. I haven't observed this behavior you have described. |
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| 8247 | Jul 28 2005, 11:24 AM Post #20 |
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I've seen it here and there on the boards, but yesterday at work, I got an email from the regional manager about safety. One of the stores was robbed at gunpoint, and the email was about making your store safe, etc. The last line of the email said "Thank G-d that no one was hurt, and that only a small amount of cash was taken." |
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| Minuet | Jul 28 2005, 11:41 AM Post #21 |
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Maybe your regional manager is Jewish. 8247 - I do think you jumped to conclusions awfully fast in this instance. If the regional manager had said "Thank goodness" would you have gone on this rant. That would have taken G-d (I always remove the o as I am Jewish) out of the equation completely. Instead this man chose to thank G-d but instead of recongnizing the non PC nature of his comment you went on a rant because you didn't like the spelling. Excuse me for saying so but I do think you need to relax a little and show more respect for others who may believe differently then you. Getting upset because someone does not make the same choice of spelling as you is plain wrong. If someone starts to tell you what you can or cannot do then I would understand your being upset. But they have not. Rather it is you who are being the bully and telling others that they must make the same choice as you. Sorry - but I think that is 100% wrong of you. |
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| 8247 | Jul 28 2005, 11:45 AM Post #22 |
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I seem to jump to conclusions alot. In an earlier post, I did say that I didnt know it was a Jewish sign of respect, and I apologized. |
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| Minuet | Jul 28 2005, 11:50 AM Post #23 |
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I saw that and I accept it. I just also wanted to highlight how you were pushing your beliefs on others by insisting that they not use those spellings. I really think that there is not a problem as long as someone like me doesn't come along and edit out your spelling on this board. I spell it my way - but I do not insist that you do the same and I do not edit your words even though on this board I have the power - especially in Spiritual Journeys where I am the moderator as well as the administrator. Pushing your way of doing things on others is never right. |
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| 8247 | Jul 28 2005, 11:52 AM Post #24 |
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Guess its probably a good thing I didnt send a reply to my regional.
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| captain_proton_au | Jul 28 2005, 11:57 AM Post #25 |
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Well, I'm glad its being edited, I'm sick of hearing references to it. If only now we could cut back on the commercialism of Xmas And get rid of Xmas in July, WTH is that |
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| 8247 | Jul 28 2005, 11:58 AM Post #26 |
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I'm with you on Christmas in July. |
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| Fesarius | Jul 28 2005, 12:39 PM Post #27 |
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We should get rid of all spoken words and just look at each other.
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| Yo-Yo | Jul 29 2005, 03:22 AM Post #28 |
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This already said alot. Less typing for me!! Basically in Judaism the name of g-d is holy (to state the obvious). What is holy? Holy comes from the hebrew root word "Kadosh" means separate. I.E. unique and special. Every day items are called "Hallel" which is dervied from the word "Hol" meaning sand which is very common and numerous. Some that is holy is unqiue and special and must be respected. "Thou shall not take my name in vain." On of the main risks of using g-d's name alot that you are utrning something that is holy and special into an everyday word. Therefore out of respect for the holiness of the name of g-d, It is not written OR spoken in full form. Similar names or acronyms are employed. In ancient commentary g-d was written as the acronym HKBH ("Ha-Kadosh Baruch Hu") mean "the holy one blessed be he" and is still writeen and spoke such today. In moving into the modern days and today the name of g-d is more commonly refered to a more anicent name "Hashem" ("the name") as a sign of reverence as well as drawing from the biblical times when g-d was called such before moses asked g-d at the burning bush. When he did ask Hashem, Hashem answer that "he is what he is" showing that his name is too holy for everyday use. THerefore most of the time g-d is refered to as Hashem when spoken. When written it is also written as such or shorten versions such as the letter hey (H - the fifth letter in the hebrew alphabet) . Some have moved to write the daled instead with is the fourth letter and is similar to the hey as the hey is becoming 'over used'.Hashem actually had seventy names. And according to kabbalah nad the talmud each name could be used for different things (i.e. protection, health, etc). And there have interesting stories of people who have used them...but thats for another topic. The over all basic idea of refraining from writing or speaking the name of Hashem is to avoid turning a holy word into an everyday word. "Thou shall not take my name in vain." I've heard theories in judaism regarding x-mas that they say it because they dont beleive in chirst. |
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| psyfi | Jul 29 2005, 07:00 AM Post #29 |
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This fits in with what I was taught regarding the OT which is that it is a slow revelation of the character of God by his actions and also by his names.There is Elohim or the God who is "the Strong Faithful One. There is Jehovah-Jireh meaning God as Provider of our every need, both physical and emotional. Also Jehovah Rapha or the God that Heals, and on and on. |
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| somerled | Jul 29 2005, 07:22 AM Post #30 |
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A good excuse to be silly and have a party with Xmas decorations and silly hats. We have Xmas party/dances in square dancing. They're great fun - ps no gifts are exchanged. |
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Therefore out of respect for the holiness of the name of g-d, It is not written OR spoken in full form. Similar names or acronyms are employed. In ancient commentary g-d was written as the acronym HKBH ("Ha-Kadosh Baruch Hu") mean "the holy one blessed be he" and is still writeen and spoke such today. In moving into the modern days and today the name of g-d is more commonly refered to a more anicent name "Hashem" ("the name") as a sign of reverence as well as drawing from the biblical times when g-d was called such before moses asked g-d at the burning bush. When he did ask Hashem, Hashem answer that "he is what he is" showing that his name is too holy for everyday use. THerefore most of the time g-d is refered to as Hashem when spoken. When written it is also written as such or shorten versions such as the letter hey (H - the fifth letter in the hebrew alphabet) . Some have moved to write the daled instead with is the fourth letter and is similar to the hey as the hey is becoming 'over used'.
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