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G-d, Xmas, Anti(censored) etc
Topic Started: Jul 27 2005, 10:44 PM (722 Views)
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Why are we taking God out of everything? I've even seen the word "antichrist" censored to take Christ out of it.

The thing that troubles me is that I see people who claim to believe in God censoring themselves, the same way that they would censor a curse word...f--k, s--t, etc.

My question is if you believe in God, but do not claim him by eliminating him from your vocabulary, why should He claim YOU on Judgement Day???

If you insist on doing this, I hope that your desire to be politically correct will be a good excuse on Judgement Day.

Athiests, dont bother replying. This doesnt concern you. I'm not after a debate on God's existance. If you want to debate that, start another thread.
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Here is some info about G-d:

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Judaism does not prohibit writing the Name of God per se; it prohibits only erasing or defacing a Name of God. However, observant Jews avoid writing any Name of God casually because of the risk that the written Name might later be defaced, obliterated or destroyed accidentally or by one who does not know better. Observant Jews avoid writing a Name of God on web sites like this one because there is a risk that someone else will print it out and deface it. To avoid writing the Name, Orthodox Jews (and sometimes other denominations) substitute letters or syllables, for example, writing "G-d" instead of "God." This entry was written by an observant Jew.


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Jul 27 2005, 11:44 PM
The thing that troubles me is that I see people who claim to believe in God censoring themselves, the same way that they would censor a curse word...f--k, s--t, etc.

Verbally or in written form?

When you see people typing the word God like “G-d” they are not censoring themselves in a negative way. To type the word G-d in such a manner is a sign of reverence for His name. You will especially see Jewish people type His name in such a way. It is a sign of respect.

Edit: Richman beat me to it. :wave2:
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I disagree with that, 24-------fan.

Rationalize it all you want. G-d, X-mas, and Anti------ are all examples of taking God out of your vocabulary.
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How can you disagree...it's a belief shared by many people, including me, but not in as much of an Orthodox way as others.
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So, G-d isnt defacing the name of God?
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No, it's an attempt to prevent the defacing of the name.
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Jul 27 2005, 11:53 PM
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I disagree with that, 24-------fan.

Rationalize it all you want. G-d, X-mas, and Anti------ are all examples of taking God out of your vocabulary.

Well, I agree somewhat with the anti- this or that and maybe the X-Mas (not necessarily).

However, I strenuously disagree with you on the G-d example. In the strictest since, you could say you are eliminating a letter from a word, but a person is doing so for religious reasons. Also, your comments about censorship seem to suggest that if someone does so, they don't believe in God. You do use the word "claim."

You are free to believe what you want though. :shrug:
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How do you figure? I read what you supplied, but I dont see the dirrerence between defacing the name of God and using G-d, X-mas, and even Anti------.

When someone uses them, you do know what they are talking about. How would someone be able to deface God, but not G-d?
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Because G-d is not the word God, therefore you can not deface the name of God if it is not supplied to you.
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Jul 27 2005, 11:53 PM
I disagree with that, 24-------fan.


Btw, what's that all about? :ermm:


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Jul 27 2005, 11:02 PM
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Jul 27 2005, 11:53 PM
^^^

I disagree with that, 24-------fan.

Rationalize it all you want. G-d, X-mas, and Anti------ are all examples of taking God out of your vocabulary.

Well, I agree somewhat with the anti- this or that and maybe the X-Mas (not necessarily).

However, I strenuously disagree with you on the G-d example. In the strictest since, you could say you are eliminating a letter from a word, but a person is doing so for religious reasons. Also, your comments about censorship seem to suggest that if someone does so, they don't believe in God. You do use the word "claim."

You are free to believe what you want though. :shrug:

I use the word "claim" because in my opinion, the people who use G-d, X-mas, etc are avoiding claiming God. I'm not one to attack other religions, and I dont know much about Judisim, so if its an accepted thing with that religion, who am I to say otherwise? But, my understanding of Christianity says that you should claim God. People burn bibles every day. Is that defacing his name? Yes, but in my opinion, G-d, X-mas, etc seems like a way to get your point across, but not run the risk of offending anyone by actually saying His name.
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Jul 27 2005, 11:10 PM
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Jul 27 2005, 11:53 PM
I disagree with that, 24-------fan.


Btw, what's that all about? :ermm:


(Bold added)

It was to prove a point.
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Jul 27 2005, 11:44 PM
Why are we taking God out of everything? I've even seen the word "antichrist" censored to take Christ out of it.

Who is we? If “we” are taking God out of everything, then that is a choice that is being made. If someone, a business or a community want to take God out of the equation then that is their prerogative.
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The thing that troubles me is that I see people who claim to believe in God censoring themselves, the same way that they would censor a curse word...f--k, s--t, etc.

I addressed this last night. You have been shown why the “censorship” isn’t done for negative reasons (i.e. to remove God from their life).
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My question is if you believe in God, but do not claim him by eliminating him from your vocabulary, why should He claim YOU on Judgement Day???

Since my personal relationship with G-d is nunya, I’ll pass on answering this question.
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If you insist on doing this, I hope that your desire to be politically correct will be a good excuse on Judgement Day.

Who are you to sit in judgment in such a condescending way?
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Athiests, dont bother replying. This doesnt concern you. I'm not after a debate on God's existance. If you want to debate that, start another thread.

This is a message board. If an Atheist has something worthwhile to add to the conversation then they should be allowed to.
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Jul 28 2005, 12:14 AM
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Jul 27 2005, 11:02 PM
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Jul 27 2005, 11:53 PM
^^^

I disagree with that, 24-------fan.

Rationalize it all you want. G-d, X-mas, and Anti------ are all examples of taking God out of your vocabulary.

Well, I agree somewhat with the anti- this or that and maybe the X-Mas (not necessarily).

However, I strenuously disagree with you on the G-d example. In the strictest since, you could say you are eliminating a letter from a word, but a person is doing so for religious reasons. Also, your comments about censorship seem to suggest that if someone does so, they don't believe in God. You do use the word "claim."

You are free to believe what you want though. :shrug:

I use the word "claim" because in my opinion, the people who use G-d, X-mas, etc are avoiding claiming God. I'm not one to attack other religions, and I dont know much about Judisim, so if its an accepted thing with that religion, who am I to say otherwise? But, my understanding of Christianity says that you should claim God. People burn bibles every day. Is that defacing his name? Yes, but in my opinion, G-d, X-mas, etc seems like a way to get your point across, but not run the risk of offending anyone by actually saying His name.

You are welcome to your opinion. However, I think you are looking at this in the wrong way. Someone using G-d instead of God is not trying to remove God from his or her life. It is a sign of respect.

They are not trying to not offend a person, but trying to protect and respect the name of God.

I do see people using X-Mas. I sometimes write it shorthand on lists at Christmastime. However, that doesn't mean I am trying to remove God from my life. I do it for a variety of reasons including: 1) I am too tired to keep writing Christmas out over and over. 2) Sometimes I like to mentally seperate the secular and non-secular aspects of Christmas. 3) Any number of other reasons.


However, your quick judgment that people are trying to remove God from their life by writing X-Mas is not the only possible reason for writing X-Mas.
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