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Which episode do you like better and why?
The High Ground 2 (33.3%)
The Enemy 4 (66.7%)
Total Votes: 6
Head-to-Head Challenge III; From the Third Season
Topic Started: Jul 21 2005, 12:54 PM (283 Views)
HistoryDude
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Harder to pick two from Season 3...soooooo many good ones. I may have to do a couple more from this season before moving on to 4? :P

Episodes: The High Ground and The Enemy
Connection: Concerns Relevant Contemporary Issues
Synopsis:

The High Ground -- Doctor Crusher's abduction by a radical terrorist group thrusts the crew into an explosive civil war on Rutia Four. Riker attempts to negotiate for her return but only drags the Federation deeper into the conflict, during which time Picard is captured and a bomb is placed on the Enterprise.

The Enemy -- After Geordi is stranded on a storm-ravaged planet, the crew's attempts to rescue him are hindered by an aggressive Romulan warbird. Geordi discovers a Romulan who is also stranded, and the two learn they must put aside their differences if they are to survive.
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Dr. Noah
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I'm going with The Enemy. Another example of a great LaForge episode. I like that we get some information on Romulan culture too.
It's a bit like Enemy Mine, but it's very well done. I give it a 50 Dick. ;)
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Franko
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HistoryDude
Jul 21 2005, 09:54 AM
Harder to pick two from Season 3...soooooo many good ones. I may have to do a couple more from this season before moving on to 4? :P




Season 3 is my favourite TNG season. Most of the episodes are GOOD.


This is a tough call. "High Ground" is pretty good, and has good structure to it. The bomb placed aboard the Enterprise is kind of scary; in a way this is a good Beverly episode as well.


"The Enemy" is a little more intrinsic to "historical Trek", though. That Tomolok guy becomes a bit of a running nemesis for us (The Defector) and it's good to have an episode finally devoted to the "cold war" going on with the Romulans.




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Swidden
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I am going with "High Ground." I think, even at the time, it spoke to the concept of modern day terrorist tactics. It also addressed the issue of just how do you maintain security in such a situation.

It edges out "The Enemy" if only because of that espisode's similarity to "Enemy Mine" and the fact that that movie was actually based on a WWII movie involving an American and Japanese soldier. Essentially, "The Enemy" misses out just barely due to its having been done more than once before.
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captain_proton_au
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Why pick these two from season 3?


I assume you are implying these are the best two from season 3, I would have drawn from BoBW's, Yesterdays Enterprise or Evolution before these two.


I dont really like High Ground cos it has too much Beverley.

And I find The Enemy too simplistic.

But I will go for The Enemy for the opening scenes
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HistoryDude
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Hey captian au - No, I'm not implying these are the best two episodes of Season 3. And, of course, there is probably no way we could get anyone to agree on which was the best episode. :P The intent with these little challenges is simply to pick a couple of episodes that have some connection and put them up head-to-head to generate some discussion and spark some interest in TNG. The connection between these two episodes is that they deal with themes that are quite relevant to today in some manner. I pick them fairly randomly, but hoping that at least most members like them, so that they will talk about them.

I love both these episodes, but will edge toward "The High Ground." I thought it was an excellent look into a modern day contemporary problem, but one that's not new for us, nor likely to cease in the future, as this episode addresses. The dialogs between Crusher and the Terrorist leader, and then also between Riker and the Rutian Security Chief, about right, wrong, and points-of-view is quite thought provoking. On one hand, when the terrorist leader is comparing himslef with George Washington, you may easily dismiss him as a quack. On the other hand, when you see the conflict from his side (the desperation, fighting in the only way they can, etc.), you begin to wonder just exactly how much do the "good guys" bear responsibility? You begin to wonder if things are as crystal clear as they used to seem? A difficult, hard look at ones self, and a question that, dare I say, the United States should consider?

The Enemy was good, too. A glimpse of hope that even enemies can work together. And I think a good expose on the old gripe and concept that it is the old men that start the wars and the young men that have to fight them. And while the Federation and Romulans aren't at war exactly, this episode addresses the fact that, in a different situation, these young men would get along and respect each other, but because of the old men in power, may have to kill each other, instead...
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Bill
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Have to go with the Enemy.

What a story depicting what the world is like today!

Why can't we cooperate with everyone else?

Bill :huh:
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gdog243
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Oh man this is tough, since they I both great episodes. I went with Enemy though becuase it was all about trust, and it brought a great follow up too. Oh, and for those who say TNG was too PC, watch this episode and take notice to what Worf did. Just a thought. :yes:
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HistoryDude
Jul 22 2005, 08:23 AM
Hey captian au - No, I'm not implying these are the best two episodes of Season 3. And, of course, there is probably no way we could get anyone to agree on which was the best episode. :P The intent with these little challenges is simply to pick a couple of episodes that have some connection and put them up head-to-head to generate some discussion and spark some interest in TNG. The connection between these two episodes is that they deal with themes that are quite relevant to today in some manner. I pick them fairly randomly, but hoping that at least most members like them, so that they will talk about them.

I love both these episodes, but will edge toward "The High Ground." I thought it was an excellent look into a modern day contemporary problem, but one that's not new for us, nor likely to cease in the future, as this episode addresses. The dialogs between Crusher and the Terrorist leader, and then also between Riker and the Rutian Security Chief, about right, wrong, and points-of-view is quite thought provoking. On one hand, when the terrorist leader is comparing himslef with George Washington, you may easily dismiss him as a quack. On the other hand, when you see the conflict from his side (the desperation, fighting in the only way they can, etc.), you begin to wonder just exactly how much do the "good guys" bear responsibility? You begin to wonder if things are as crystal clear as they used to seem? A difficult, hard look at ones self, and a question that, dare I say, the United States should consider?

The Enemy was good, too. A glimpse of hope that even enemies can work together. And I think a good expose on the old gripe and concept that it is the old men that start the wars and the young men that have to fight them. And while the Federation and Romulans aren't at war exactly, this episode addresses the fact that, in a different situation, these young men would get along and respect each other, but because of the old men in power, may have to kill each other, instead...

Oh. 2 eps with a connection, good idea

I did like the conversation between Picard and Data in High Ground, where Data basically says that Terrorists do get there way sometimes
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WolfsLoveRage
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Jul 21 2005, 11:13 PM
It edges out "The Enemy" if only because of that espisode's similarity to "Enemy Mine" and the fact that that movie was actually based on a WWII movie involving an American and Japanese soldier. Essentially, "The Enemy" misses out just barely due to its having been done more than once before.

I choose The Enemy... the atmosphere with him being left stranded. How he made those spikes using his phaser and some form of easily melted rock after he made an inpression into the ground and then those two not trusting each other at first but then becoming with mutual respect. And I also likethe acting in the rain and mud... that is nto usualy for actors to go thru... that may sound weird to judge a good episode... but I always think of the actors too. Plus I have been in situations like that (With the mud.) and I know it is uncomfortable and miserable.

How ever what WW2 movie are you talking about? Is it that one where the Japanese guy had the American with that log on his back and then the opposite happens and in the end they are friends and find a hut with food and wine and then the Japanese sees a magazine which I believe had the A-Bomb on the cover... is that the movie?
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