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How long will we have to endure TomKat?
Topic Started: Jun 19 2005, 04:50 PM (196 Views)
captain_proton_au
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Oi!, If I have to see another 'news' story about how happy they are at being happy, I'm gonna scream.

All too creepy for me



In case you havent heard....

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Cruise, Holmes engaged to marry
Actor pops question atop Eiffel Tower

Saturday, June 18, 2005 Posted: 1745 GMT (0145 HKT)

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Tom Cruise holds fiancee Katie Holmes' hand in Marseille, France Friday.


PARIS, France (AP) -- Actor Tom Cruise said he and girlfriend Katie Holmes are engaged, after he popped the question early Friday morning atop the Eiffel Tower.

Cruise, speaking at a Paris news conference with Holmes, said: "Yes, I proposed to her."

The couple often shared smiles and blushes as Cruise turned to look at her, with a massive diamond ring on her finger.

"It was early this morning at the Eiffel Tower, so I haven't slept at all," he said. "Today is a magnificent day for me, I'm engaged to a magnificent woman."

Asked why he chose the famed Paris landmark, he said: "I've never been to the Eiffel Tower. It's Paris, it's a beautiful city, it's very romantic."

Cruise said no date for a wedding has been set: "We haven't discussed that -- one step at a time," he said. "Let's see. We're not sure."

Cruise, 42, was in Paris to promote the French release of the Steven Spielberg film "War of the Worlds" next month. He and 26-year-old Holmes went public with their romantic relationship in April.

Holmes did not speak to reporters, but at one point, Cruise whispered to her: "Are you OK?" Afterward, the two hurried into a car before leaving for a promotional event in Marseilles, southern France.

"I wish them the happiest marriage that anyone has ever had," said Dakota Fanning, the child actress who co-stars with Cruise in the film. She sat next to Holmes during the news conference.

Cruise and Holmes have faced repeated rumors of marriage. The relationship started after Cruise split from actress Penelope Cruz, and Holmes and actor Chris Klein called off their long-standing engagement.

While in Berlin two days ago, Cruise dismissed speculation by tabloid newspapers and celebrity gossip columns that their relationship is a stunt to promote their new movies.

Holmes was in London earlier this week to promote her new film, "Batman Begins." She had also dismissed accusations that the couple had staged a relationship for publicity.

Holmes said then that she was embracing Scientology -- Cruise's religion. The former star of television's "Dawson's Creek" grew up with a poster of Cruise on her bedroom wall and has said she grew up wanting to marry him.
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Huh?
We'll have to endure it as long as people keep putting two names together.
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Oh, come on! Everytime the run into a camera you get a comment like "Oh, she's the most wonderful womand I've ever met!" *gush*
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Tom Cruise pursued his first two wives in a similar fashion (really gung-ho). I wouldn’t be surprised if they were married within a couple of months. I give the marriage five years. I also suspect he wants more kids. So we'll see if it is really him who can't have the children. That was always a topic of discussion/speculation because his children are adopted.

And the hoopla? Will be just as strong for the first couple of years. Cruise is notorious for being a private person. He is taking a different route this time to head off the media frenzy (long-term). At least I suspect that is why he is being so public about this relationship with Holmes.

I honestly don't think she has really thought through what she is getting herself into. It was only a couple or so months ago that they started dating. Now she is turning her back on Catholicism for Scientology too? I think she is caught up in the moment/romance. I suspect that high will come down eventually. And when it does...
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It's already been too long.
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Here is an interesting take on the story.

Wham, bam, what a sham!

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Wham, bam, what a sham!
Hollywood's ick couple, Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes, are engaged and everyone's sooo ... queasy Quickie couplings for public consumption are not uncommon in LaLa land, writes Garnet Fraser





Tom Cruise is getting married. Isn't anybody happy for him — excluding, to gauge by his now-infamous appearance on Oprah, the man himself?

No sooner had Cruise announced his engagement to Katie Holmes yesterday in Paris than gossip websites and other commentators were heaping scorn on the toothsome twosome.

"OMG, they are getting married. This is sooo not a publicity stunt. This is true love, right! Right????? Barf," wrote one refined commentator, almost instantly, at the popular scandal site perezhilton.com.

"She has sold out," proclaimed PR queen Lizzie Grubman on gawker.com, but "she's got covers of magazines, appearances on Letterman instead of Carson (Daly) and (Jimmy) Kimmel."

"It's disgusting and causes physical and mental illness when thinking about it," said one writer on http://www.freekatie.net, which is doing a brisk business selling "Free Katie" T-shirts.

If you've seen any of those T-shirts, you know reaction to the reaction hasn't been just cynical, it's been blunt. British oddsmaker William Hill quickly declared there was an odds-on 1/6 chance (an 87 per cent likelihood) that Cruise and Holmes would last longer than his first marriage to Mimi Rogers (two years, nine months), but a mere 44 per cent chance they would outlast his second marriage of 10 years, eight months to Nicole Kidman.

Skepticism about Hollywood liaisons may be well grounded. The happy news did, after all, come on a promotional tour for his upcoming film War of the Worlds. And many high-profile couplings have indeed been created purely for public consumption:

In 1958, Columbia boss Harry Cohn engineered the bogus wedding of Sammy Davis Jr. to a black chorus girl, Loray White, to keep him away from Columbia's white star, Kim Novak. White got $25,000 for less than a year of faking it as Mrs. Davis.

To cover up his homosexuality, Rock Hudson married his agent's secretary, Phyllis Gates, in 1955, and the news filled the major gossip magazines. The couple divorced in 1958.

Raymond Burr, also gay, did Hudson better, avoiding the necessity of weddings by simply inventing wives and killing them off, like a soap opera writer. Burr claimed that one wife, an actress, had died in the World War II plane crash that killed actor Leslie Howard. A decade later, Burr claimed another wife died of cancer. Neither seems to have existed. He also concocted an imaginary 10-year-old son, who also "died" of cancer.

Gay allegations are, of course, nothing new to Cruise. In fact, prior to the 1999 release of Eyes Wide Shut, Cruise was fighting simultaneous media allegations that he was gay, impotent and/or sterile. You'd think that all that would make it hard to hold onto a girlfriend, but from Melissa Gilbert in the early '80s to Penelope Cruz last year, the Top Gun star has rarely flown solo in public.

Retractions and apologies follow each allegation, but the innuendo hasn't stopped. In 2001 Cruise filed a lawsuit against a gay porn star after a magazine reported that Kyle Bradford claimed they had an affair.

"It is absolutely 100 per cent false," said Cruise's attorney, Bert Fields, adding "he's not gay, and he's ready to prove this in court" — a prospect that surely made Court TV prick up its ears.

Bradford said he had never even spoken to the magazine, which later recanted. One way or another, it's no accident that this keeps happening to Cruise. Interest in a star's sex life is proportionate to their sex appeal; this is one of the reasons why talk of Cruise and Keanu Reeves keeps resurfacing, but Rosie O'Donnell's coming out got a mere shrug, and you can search in vain for scuttlebutt about Verne Troyer.

(The other side of the equation is that sometimes no one believes a couple when they deny having sex; witness Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie.)

This interest can be exploited to the star's benefit, though. Grubman's comments suggest that the union is a calculated effort to sustain Cruise's stardom in a younger demographic while vastly expanding Holmes' fame.

"Basically, what he's doing is appealing to the MTV audience. He's getting older, and she's young. ... Within weeks of their announcement, she has become a full-blown superstar," said Grubman (herself best known for driving her SUV into a crowd of people in 2001).

Certain stars do certainly take steps to remain in the spotlight. "Movie stars have unconsciously become their own publicists (and) don't need publicists to tell them what boyfriends and girlfriends are good for their career," Paramount producer Lynda Obst told slate.com. Bennifer I — the 18-month relationship between Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez — helped rehabilitate images that verged on boorish and brittle, respectively, or so the theory goes.

A younger partner so chosen — there's a 16-year gap between Holmes and Cruise — could reaffirm an older star's desirability: see Harrison Ford and Calista Flockhart, Janet Jackson and Justin Timberlake, Michael Douglas and Catherine Zeta-Jones, or Demi Moore and Ashton Kutcher. And if a young star like Holmes can get a whole new audience from such a liaison, it can help their star rise.

The theory has its problems. For one thing, Nicole Kidman's first post-nuptial hits To Die For and Batman Forever didn't come until five years into the marriage.

And if Mimi Rogers's 1987 union with Cruise was meant to be a springboard to stardom, then something went badly wrong. She starred in a run of films now dying of neglect at your local video store.

Moreover, news of Cruise's pairing with Holmes only came in April, 11 months after Holmes began filming the biggest movie of her career — Batman Begins —having reportedly edged out Natalie Portman and Sarah Michelle Gellar for the job. If anyone gave her career a boost, it was director Christopher Nolan.

Hostile fans may need to make their peace with the future Mrs. Cruise. If it's just business, we'll find out if it works.

And it's worth noting — as slate.com does — that the supposedly heartfelt marriage that Jolie allegedly broke up had its own businesslike beginnings:

Jennifer Aniston had her publicist call Brad Pitt's to ask for a date.
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Jun 19 2005, 11:38 PM
Tom Cruise pursued his first two wives in a similar fashion (really gung-ho). I wouldn’t be surprised if they were married within a couple of months. I give the marriage five years. I also suspect he wants more kids. So we'll see if it is really him who can't have the children. That was always a topic of discussion/speculation because his children are adopted.


I didn't see much comment from Mimi Rogers when he first hooked up with Nicole Kidman (much like you don't see much comment from her now). A few years ago, I did see an interview with Rogers though in which she mentioned that very thing. She had just had a child and alluded to the the idea that she had been the one "blamed" for them not having kids and she said she'd pretty much proven that wrong. (She didn't say the he had been the one to "blame" her - just that it had been the perception - I think because she was older than him.)

As to the original question: Generally I don't care, but I must admit I'm already annoyed hearing about this couple.
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What is bothering me about this whole thing is that being in love, as I have experienced it, is NOT akin to a manic high. It's good. It's nice. It's even great. But if it induces something akin to a bipolar swing, it is either good acting or time for some Lithium. Given that Cruise appears to be in such denial about mood stabilizers that he attacked Brooke Shields for taking a couple of pills for postpartum depression, I am thinking the problem is that he needs some Lithium and doesn't want to face it.

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Jun 19 2005, 09:53 PM
24thcenstfan
Jun 19 2005, 11:38 PM
Tom Cruise pursued his first two wives in a similar fashion (really gung-ho).  I wouldn’t be surprised if they were married within a couple of months.  I give the marriage five years.   I also suspect he wants more kids.  So we'll see if it is really him who can't have the children.   That was always a topic of discussion/speculation because his children are adopted.


I didn't see much comment from Mimi Rogers when he first hooked up with Nicole Kidman (much like you don't see much comment from her now). A few years ago, I did see an interview with Rogers though in which she mentioned that very thing. She had just had a child and alluded to the the idea that she had been the one "blamed" for them not having kids and she said she'd pretty much proven that wrong. (She didn't say the he had been the one to "blame" her - just that it had been the perception - I think because she was older than him.)

I get this terrible feeling about what Holmes is getting herself into with this man. I have always enjoyed most of his acting projects, but his involvement in the Church of Scientology concerns me.

I feel sorry for her. She is so enamored with this guy, I don't think she truly sees the world he is sucking her into. Holmes even has a new assistant (fast becoming friends as well) who works for the Church of Scientology (according to the June 27th issue of People Magazine). She apparently shadows Holmes wherever she goes. Very creepy (just a surface opinion).

I admit I am curious about whether or not it is he who has the problem conceiving children. I guess mainly because I have always gotten the impression that Cruise really never did anything to dispel the rumors that it was his ex-wives that were the ones to blame for not giving him biological children. Somewhat unfair I thought.
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Who cares? My life is complex enough without giving a crap about the lives of Hollywood's most spoiled rotten, and self absorbed pompous ass brats.

I wish that movie stars would just do their jobs, and make movies. I feel sorry for people who buy into following the stars' lives. Makes me think that their lives must be so pathetic or boring that they think that knowing everything about a star's life down to how many squares of toilet paper they use makes them feel better.
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Jun 20 2005, 02:46 AM
I feel sorry for her. She is so enamored with this guy, I don't think she truly sees the world he is sucking her into. Holmes even has a new assistant (fast becoming friends as well) who works for the Church of Scientology (according to the June 27th issue of People Magazine). She apparently shadows Holmes wherever she goes. Very creepy (just a surface opinion).


I read that, after meeting her briefly, he walked her to her car - which was a mess inside and had several dings on the outside.

The next day, he sends a crew (without asking) over to detail it and buff out the external dings. She found it romantic. I would have found it controlling.

8247, I generally would agree with you. I don't know why this particular pairing annoys me - I enjoyed several of his films, but I am not a big fan of his.
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I agree with the both of you. His movies are okay but Tom Cruise never really appealed to me. Always wondered people were going gaga about but that's just a matter of personal taste.

How long has it been for those two anyway? It couldn't have been that long. Is this just one big infatuation?

If I were Katie I wouldn't jump into marriage just yet.

Tom Cruise is absolutely giddy about his latest love. :)
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8247
Jun 19 2005, 10:05 PM

I wish that movie stars would just do their jobs, and make movies. I feel sorry for people who buy into following the stars' lives. Makes me think that their lives must be so pathetic or boring that they think that knowing everything about a star's life down to how many squares of toilet paper they use makes them feel better.

In this case its not about putting celebs on a pedastal, but more Voyeurism as we all go Ick as he's almost old enough to be her dad ( the fact that she still looks 19 doesnt help), and that he might be trying to convert her....creepy
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