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If you fire a gun in an aircraft, what would happen?
The aircraft will explosively decompress, likely killing everyone onboard. 0 (0%)
If the bullet strikes windows, but no where else, the aircraft will explosively decompress, likely killing everyone onboard. 0 (0%)
The skin or the window of the aircraft would be puntured and the aircraft would decompress slowly 5 (71.4%)
Nothing would happen 2 (28.6%)
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Guns in Airplanes
Topic Started: Jun 15 2005, 11:58 PM (364 Views)
Dwayne
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Please explain your answer.
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I chose the last option. However, I believe it would depend on the type of bullet used.

Actually, I think either nothing would happen (depending on where the bullet went), or if the bullet pierced the hull, the plane would slowly decompress.

At least that is what I gleaned from some of the information put out when the air marshall debate flaired up after a certain event (<= trying hard to keep politics out of the thread there).
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Dwayne....You had to have watched Mythbusters tonight. I saw that they were doing that experiment on the episode they ran tonight, but I didnt watch it. What happened?
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Dwayne
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Pick the 3rd option and that's what happened on Mythbusters.

Now I'm totally in favor of arming the flight crew of aircraft.
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^^^

I dun wanna know what happens cuz i have to fly in 4 weeks! Yikes!
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Oooh! Where to?
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Doesn't it really depend on where the gun was aimed? :D

If you shoot the pilot and co-pilot the plane won't decompress, but you will be dead anyways.

If you shoot your spouse sitting next to you the plane will continue to fly.

The possibilities are endless.
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Dwayne
Jun 16 2005, 08:22 AM
Pick the 3rd option and that's what happened on Mythbusters.

Now I'm totally in favor of arming the flight crew of aircraft.

Not that I am against arming the crew (I actually have to think about that and form an opinion) But if someone punctures the plane what good would an armed crew do? The plane is already punctured. They may need guns to protect themselves from the scenario I listed above, but it won't do anything to prevent the guy in the last row from shooting a hole somewhere in the plane.
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Minuet
Jun 16 2005, 10:52 AM
Dwayne
Jun 16 2005, 08:22 AM
Pick the 3rd option and that's what happened on Mythbusters.

Now I'm totally in favor of arming the flight crew of aircraft.

Not that I am against arming the crew (I actually have to think about that and form an opinion) But if someone punctures the plane what good would an armed crew do? The plane is already punctured. They may need guns to protect themselves from the scenario I listed above, but it won't do anything to prevent the guy in the last row from shooting a hole somewhere in the plane.

Min, I think the point was that the reason a lot of people say they don’t want the flight crew of an aircraft armed is to avoid the explosive decompression when a hole is shoot through an plain like we see on TV and Movies. According to this program Dwayne watched they showed that this explosive decompression would not happen. So if this does not happen then to Dwayne it makes a stronger case in his mind for arming the flight crew.
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^^^ If that was the intent then the question should have been clear about that and the thread should be moved to the Politics forum.

Dwayne - what was your intent with this thread and why did you choose the Modern Technology forum?
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Jun 16 2005, 08:26 AM
Oooh! Where to?

Sweden! To see my friends again!

6 months has been to long.... :rolleyes:
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Minuet
Jun 16 2005, 11:03 AM
^^^ If that was the intent then the question should have been clear about that and the thread should be moved to the Politics forum.

Dwayne - what was your intent with this thread and why did you choose the Modern Technology forum?

I think it is the right place. I don’t think the original intent was to talk about arming flight crews, but only to relate an infesting fact he saw on tv. Later down the post Dwayne added that this interesting fact would cause him to more strongly agree with arming flight crews.

The only reason I responded to what you wrote the way that I did was be cause I thought you had misunderstood his comment in the last post only.
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^^^ My intent was to widen the possibilities, not narrow them. I thought keeping the possibilities wider was more in keeping with the forum and examining the myriad of answers under different circumstances.
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What about arming them with Tasers? Or would that affect the plane?
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The skin or the window of the aircraft would be puntured and the aircraft would decompress slowly.

If silenced , most people on the plane including the crew may not even notice anything untoward happening.

Wasn't this done on Myth Busters (in a very crude manner).

The hull of the aircraft is very strongly built , and the windows are unlikely to blow out. The pressure differential is insufficient (maximum 1 ATM gauge) ie there is insufficient stored energy in the pressurised cabin to cause a catastrophic event.
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