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The Rapture?; Questions, opinions and observations...
Topic Started: Jun 1 2005, 07:24 AM (655 Views)
Fesarius
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Noah,

Do Buddhists believe in a rapture of sorts?
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Not really. There's no end of the world scenario or anything, but it is stated over and over that you shouldn't get too attached to Earthy things, because they won't last long.
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Well, that sounds like a reasonable philosophy (I agree with it ;)) to me.
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Strikes me as good advice too or as the bible puts it:

Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal; but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.
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Very true. And that last line is spot on, at least in my life. :)
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psyfi
Jun 3 2005, 11:04 PM
Strikes me as good advice too or as the bible puts it:

Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal; but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.

Inquiry: can you speculate on what is meant by 'treasures' versus a 401k for instance?

P.S. by 'you' I guess I really mean anyone who wishes to speculate, except Mike Welsby.
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But 38957,

Why not include speculation from TGO?
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Jun 6 2005, 07:44 AM
psyfi
Jun 3 2005, 11:04 PM
Strikes me as good advice too or as the bible puts it:

Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal; but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.

Inquiry: can you speculate on what is meant by 'treasures' versus a 401k for instance?

P.S. by 'you' I guess I really mean anyone who wishes to speculate, except Mike Welsby.

Storing up heavenly treasures would, I believe, include things like treasuring being good to people, and loving them even when they don't love you back. It would be treasuring doing our best in any situation no matter how humble our position or whether anyone is grateful to us for doing an excellent job. It would be looking for the positive and not allowing ourselves to brood over the fact that life has or is treating us unfair. It would asking God for guidance in all things and doing our best to hear His answer and follow what He says do. In fact, I would say that the perfect way to store up treasures would be to live that life of love that is outlined for us in 1st Corinthians 13.
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It would be treasuring doing our best in any situation no matter how humble our position or whether anyone is grateful to us for doing an excellent job.

True enough. I also think it's best when the only two that know you are doing your best are God and you. :)
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I am looking to resolve the difference between not storing 'treasures' on earth and be responsible financially. Does Proverbs not urge you to be prepared for the future and to be a good steward of the master's wealth?

Perhaps the intent here is to avoid being focused on the amassing of personal wealth as an end unto itself, but to rather focusing on managing the master's wealth. Did Jesus not in parable also state that the person who manages the master's wealth well will be given responsibility over an even greater portion of it.

The focus should be not on greed (storing up treasures on earth), but rather on managing what the master has placed your responsibility well.

I am not opposed to wealth, if it is with the proper spirit.
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There is nothing I can possibly disagree with in that post, even if I wanted to attempt to do so. Couldn't you have at least included a profanity or two so that I could have taken you to task?

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Did Jesus not in parable also state that the person who manages the master's wealth well will be given responsibility over an even greater portion of it.

Yes, yes. :)

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Jun 6 2005, 12:27 PM
I am looking to resolve the difference between not storing 'treasures' on earth and be responsible financially. Does Proverbs not urge you to be prepared for the future and to be a good steward of the master's wealth?

Perhaps the intent here is to avoid being focused on the amassing of personal wealth as an end unto itself, but to rather focusing on managing the master's wealth. Did Jesus not in parable also state that the person who manages the master's wealth well will be given responsibility over an even greater portion of it.

The focus should be not on greed (storing up treasures on earth), but rather on managing what the master has placed your responsibility well.

I am not opposed to wealth, if it is with the proper spirit.

The bible talks about "good success." Good success is money earned as a function of following God's ordained laws as they relate to finances. I do think that this way of achieving financial success involves stewardship, an understanding that God is bringing wealth to you so that you might be blessed and have your heart's desires AND be a blessing to others with it. You never feel that you lack as you receive and give out because the flow is constant when heavenly laws are the economic system you operate on. John Avanzini has written some absolutely wonderful books on this topic.
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