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South Korea; Anti-U.S. protest
Topic Started: May 30 2005, 12:40 PM (874 Views)
Fesarius
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Gvok,

Please define 'brainwashed.'
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I saw a program in which several older Koreans were interviewed. Of the students, they said that they simply do not remember what the North Koreans were all about. They also said that the students honestly believe the entire problem between North and South Korea is because the U.S. interfered and that the problem is being maintained because of U.S. interference. If this is true, then I don't care if every one of them has five doctorates, they are some ignorant fools.
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Darthsith
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May 31 2005, 12:51 PM
Gvok,

Please define 'brainwashed.'

brainwashed - When one has a opinion other then yours. ('What you do not agree with me that the war in Iraqi is a complete tragedy and utter frailer? You must be brainwashed by the current government leader.')
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Dr. Noah
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I think brainwashed is better described as adopting another's point of view as your own rather than forming your own opinion objectively based on the facts.

This might have something to do with the rape of young girls by US troops in the region over the last few years. It has done little to improve the image of the US in the area.

http://www.pnews.org/PhpWiki/index.php/AmericanArrogance

http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/50/102.html

http://www.iacenter.org/ktc-civilnetwork.htm
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I think brainwashed is better described as adopting another's point of view as your own rather than forming your own opinion objectively based on the facts.

Noah,

That sounds like a reasonable definition--at least according to my understanding of the term. I esp. agree with the 'rather than forming your own opinion' part.
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Darthsith
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Dr. Noah
May 31 2005, 01:43 PM
I think brainwashed is better described as adopting another's point of view as your own rather than forming your own opinion objectively based on the facts.

No that would just be laziness, Brainwashing is when another makes to believe what they want you to believe ether through force or subterfuge.
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Dr. Noah
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Brainwashing can be either forced or voluntary.
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Dr. Noah
May 31 2005, 07:43 AM
I think brainwashed is better described as adopting another's point of view as your own rather than forming your own opinion objectively based on the facts.

This might have something to do with the rape of young girls by US troops in the region over the last few years. It has done little to improve the image of the US in the area.

http://www.pnews.org/PhpWiki/index.php/AmericanArrogance

http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/50/102.html

http://www.iacenter.org/ktc-civilnetwork.htm

Ignoring the one entitled "American Arrogance" (I'm sure it is impartial, Noah, but they all talk about the same era, ENDING IN 1998).

I don't know if seven years ago counts as "recent."

As far as brainwashed, I wouldn't call it that. I'd call them whipped into a frenzy by a select few, funded from North Korea. Don't think it is possible? The KGB did it to us in the '60s. Do a little research on the SDS and other radical organizations. Follow the money trail.

Of course North Korea wants us to leave.

The question is, do we abandon South Korea, a major trading and treaty defence partner? I haven't heard the government ask us to leave yet. I'll wait for that.
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Dr. Noah
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It's pretty hard to forget such a tragedy committed by foreigners on your soil who didn't stand trial in the nation where they committed such a horrendous crime.
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Dr. Noah
May 31 2005, 01:43 PM
I think brainwashed is better described as adopting another's point of view as your own rather than forming your own opinion objectively based on the facts.

This might have something to do with the rape of young girls by US troops in the region over the last few years. It has done little to improve the image of the US in the area.

http://www.pnews.org/PhpWiki/index.php/AmericanArrogance

http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/50/102.html

http://www.iacenter.org/ktc-civilnetwork.htm

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Given your response (or lack thereof) to the crimes committed by UN staff and UN peacekeepers in a variety of countries around the word (and not even taking into account those committed by them in the US) ......

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:



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Darthsith
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May 31 2005, 02:04 PM
Brainwashing can be either forced or voluntary.

Brainwashing -

1)Intensive, forcible indoctrination, usually political or religious, aimed at destroying a person's basic convictions and attitudes and replacing them with an alternative set of fixed beliefs.

2)The application of a concentrated means of persuasion, such as an advertising campaign or repeated suggestion, in order to develop a specific belief or motivation.

Brainwashing can not be voluntary. Voluntarily doing something means exactly that volunteering to do it. If you decided to follow a cores of action all by your self, no one has brainwashed you, you did it alone and of your own free will. Even if you decided to let others think for you, you are still doing it of your own free will.

That is why what you have described above is not brainwashing.
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Dr. Noah
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Are you talking about the same ones committed by US businessmen as well?
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Dr. Noah
May 31 2005, 02:08 PM
It's pretty hard to forget such a tragedy committed by foreigners on your soil who didn't stand trial in the nation where they committed such a horrendous crime.

Tell that to the starving children who were told sex with adults was the price of a piece of bread ...
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Dr. Noah
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Big difference between that and gang rape.
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Fesarius
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Rose,

You're a football fan? Great! ;) :)

Darthsith,

Thanks. I wanted to hear what Gvok's own definition was, which is why I asked him to define it.
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