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Scientology; What is it about?
Topic Started: May 30 2005, 09:50 AM (620 Views)
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Have light saber. Will travel.
Speaking of Cruise, did you see "Eyes Wide Shut" with Cruise and Kidman (I think just before the divorce)? This seemed bizarre to me. I wonder if it had any relation to Scientology?
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No. That is the one Kubrick film I refuse to see. And, Stanley Kubrick is among my top-three favorite directors of all-time.
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I was very disappointed in Vanilla Sky. That movie could have been great; instead it was dumb.

Fes, why don't you want to see "Eyes Wide Shut?" I haven't seen it and know nothing about it.
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Psyfi,

From what I have read, it's overtly sexual. My eyes don't need to see that. In fact, one might say that I would be better off viewing the film with 'Eyes Wide Shut.' ;)
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May 31 2005, 06:16 AM
Speaking of Cruise, did you see "Eyes Wide Shut" with Cruise and Kidman (I think just before the divorce)? This seemed bizarre to me. I wonder if it had any relation to Scientology?



Ummm... I didn't really get that impression. "Eyes Wide Shut" was Kubrik's project; Cruise merely played a starring role in it. In fact, none of T.C.'s films seem to really reflect any particular ideology or politics so it's hard to say.


Fes: I think "Eyes Wide Shut" is a little bit disturbing in places, particularily if you're married. Don't ask. You're not exactly missing Kubrik's best film, that's for sure.


Vanilla Sky was kind of interesting because I hadn't been tipped off about the ending. I prefer Tom Cruise in action/adventure roles, like Mission Impossible, Top Gun, or even in the well-done recent flick, "Collateral".




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Fes: I think "Eyes Wide Shut" is a little bit disturbing in places, particularily if you're married. Don't ask. You're not exactly missing Kubrik's best film, that's for sure.

Franko,

I'd much rather watch a Hitchcock or Truffaut film than Eyes Wide Shut. My wife and I have a rule--neither of us watch a film that we would not want the other to see. Both have to agree to it, or else it doesn't get watched. :)
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She better hold on to her wallet. Or she could just use Cruise's money for the donations since marriage seems to be the path they are headed on. :lol:


Katie Holmes Embracing Scientology
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Scientology is a 'religion' started by a man who once said that the quickest way to become rich beyond the dreams of avarice is to...
Wait for it...


Start your own religion.

It's difficult for me to have a problem with Scientology when you consider the fact that some people live very happy lives as Scientologists.
And yet, somehow I have a very big problem with Scientology.
Let's ignore the fact that L. Ron Hubbard was a racist and a mysogynist. Let's ignore the fact fact that he was a big time conspiracy nut.
Scinetology is designed to drain people of their money, plain and simple. One must work one's way through numerous levels to reach 'clear', and each level has a new set of materials that you must purchase. As the levels increase, so do the price of the materials.
It's also incumbent on members to recruit new Scientologists, and get them on the path to 'clear' as soon as possible.
And Scientologists are rabidly defensive of their faith. Anyone who attacks Scientology becomee the enemy of the faith and open season is declared on them. Scientologist will use any tactic to destroy their enemies. Harrassment, character defamation, even using their connections to make the physical living and maintenence of your life more difficult.
Not nice people, these Scientologists. And I mean that in a strictly general sense.
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Dr. Noah
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I wholeheartedly agree with my esteemed colleague Mr. Slickhead.

Scientology is nothing more than a sci-fi writer scamming thousands by requiring them to pay him thousands of dollars to joint his little ridiculous alien conspiracy cult. He was a hack and a liar, and people are absolute morons not to see that.

He can't even write a decent sci-fi story. Anybody seen Battlefield: Earth? :sick:
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Actually, I haven't seen the film, but I did read the book.
It's a great sci-fi adventure story.
And it plays up some of his personal problems.
The only civilized humans in the story are anglos. The Chinese are portrayed as having been born to serve. Blacks are portrayed as mindless cannibals. Women are portrayed as subservient dummies who love nothing more than making a new buckskin suit for Jonnie Goodboy Tyler.
It also demonstrates his hatred of psychiatric medicine. There's a whole substrate of the story involving the alien Psychlos and their forerunners, the Catrists. Something involving how the Catrists used a spinning wheel with a spiral on it to take control of peoples' minds. I don't remember exactly.
Whatever. He would take greater shots at psychiatry in his Invasion Earth series.
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Dr. Noah
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I could be wrong. I never read any of his books because I always considered him a hack. Based on your analysis though, I don't think I would enjoy it. I didn't like Mein Kampf either.
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So far my research concurs with Slick.


Hubbard's full remark in 1970 was:


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Writing science fiction for about a penny a word is no way to make a living, If you really want to make a million, the quickest way is to start your own religion." - L. Ron Hubbard



I much prefer Blalockology :drool:


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I never read any of his books because I always considered him a hack.


:headscratch:
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Dr. Noah
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What don't you understand?
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Noah,

I think the confusion arises because you are commenting on his writings (in posts above your most recent one) and yet you haven't read any of his works. From a logical standpoint, how can the statement be considered valid?
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