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Would you vote for Hillary Clinton if she ran for president in 2008?
Yes 3 (13.6%)
No 16 (72.7%)
Maybe 2 (9.1%)
Undecided 0 (0%)
Other 1 (4.5%)
Total Votes: 22
Poll majority says likely to vote for Clinton; Hillary Clinton that is...
Topic Started: May 27 2005, 01:56 PM (908 Views)
24thcenstfan
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Poll majority say they'd be likely to vote for Clinton
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For the first time, a majority of Americans say they are likely to vote for  Hillary Rodham Clinton if she runs for president in 2008, according to a USA TODAY/CNN/Gallup Poll taken Friday through Sunday.

The survey shows that the New York senator and former first lady has broadened her support nationwide over the past two years, though she still provokes powerful feelings from those who oppose her.

Clinton commands as much strong support - but more strong opposition - as George W. Bush did in a Newsweek poll in November 1998, two years before the 2000 election. She is in slightly stronger position than then-vice president     Al Gore, the eventual 2000 Democratic nominee, was in 1998.

"Over time, Clinton fatigue has dissipated ... and people are looking back on the Clinton years more favorably," says Andrew Kohut, director of the non-partisan Pew Research Center. In a Pew poll released this month, Kohut called former president  Bill Clinton and the senator "comeback kids" because of their rising ratings.

"This may also reflect that she has been recasting her image as a more moderate person," he says.

Spokesmen for Sen. Clinton declined to discuss the survey. "She's just focused on working and doing her job for New York," says Anne Lewis, a veteran Democratic operative working at Hillpac, Clinton's political action committee.

Clinton has been leading the field of Democratic presidential contenders for the 2008 election, still more than three years away. She is running for a second Senate term next year and has dodged questions about whether she'll make a White House bid.

In the poll, 29% were "very likely" to vote for Clinton for president if she runs in 2008; 24% were "somewhat likely." Seven percent were "not very likely" and 39% were "not at all likely" to vote for her.

Her strong support has risen by 8 percentage points, and her strong opposition has dropped by 5 points since the same question was asked in June 2003.

In the new survey, more than seven in 10 Americans said they would be likely to vote for an unspecified woman for president in 2008 if she were running. One in five said they wouldn't be likely to vote for her.

Karen White, political director of the liberal group Emily's List, says the findings underscore growing acceptance of women as candidates, even for president. "People realize that women reach across party lines and are problem-solvers, and they want to see more of that in public life," she says.

No woman has been nominated for national office by one of the two major parties since Geraldine Ferraro was Walter Mondale's running mate in 1984.

Voters under 30 were by far the most likely to say they would support a woman for president. More than half of them said they were "very likely" to vote for a woman, compared with less than one-third of those 50 and older.

Among those who were very or somewhat likely to vote for Clinton for president, there were:


•A big gender gap. Six of 10 women but 45% of men were likely to support her.

•Significant differences by age. Two of three voters under 30 were likely to support her, compared with fewer than half of those 50 and older.

•Strongest support from those with the lowest income. Sixty-three percent of those with annual household incomes of $20,000 or less were likely to support her, compared with 49% of those with incomes of $75,000 or higher.

•And big swings by ideology. An overwhelming 80% of liberals were likely to support her, compared with 58% of moderates and 33% of conservatives.

Among those surveyed, 54% called Clinton a liberal, 30% a moderate and 9% a conservative.

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UncleSlickhead
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Oh, GOD help us!
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24thcenstfan
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^^So that's a 'maybe'? ;) :lol:
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Dr. Noah
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I would definately like to see a female president in my lifetime. She's definately got the experience.
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Darthsith
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I think we can find a better "first woman" president then her.
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Fesarius
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Heaven help us. Almost anyone would be better.
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Dr. Noah
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I nominate Fes. :)
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24thcenstfan
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I voted “maybe.” It really depends on what platform she runs on (if she runs) and how good or bad (qualified) the opposition is. I have already proven that I am willing to vote contrary to whom I would normally lean towards voting for if I thought the candidate didn’t cut the mustard.

So, it just depends.

I really think she is going to run. The signs are all there.
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Dr. Noah
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I forgot to say my vote. I voted yes, mainly because devoid of a better candidate, I would. But if McCain is running again, I'm going to volunteer for his campaign. :yes:
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Yes, McCain running would change things for me.

I wish McCain would leave the Republican Party and register as an Independent. If he did that, we would see the emergance of a third party that could actually rival the Rep/Dem. parties. At least I think that is what would happen.
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Dr. Noah
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One could only hope. It could result in losing some of his Republican base though. :shrug:
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^^Maybe real conservative voters and those who refuse to vote anything but Republican.

However, I think there are more than enough moderates/Independents/middle of the road voters who would pick up the slack.

There is a reason why most candidates, regardless of there affiliation, start sounding more like moderates/centrists when they are campaigning. They know this will appeal to more voters.

You get a popular candidate who actually is a moderate (or thereabouts), then they are in (will give any candidate on the left/right a run for their money).
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24, don't think that if McCain ran for President as an independent, that we would see the rise of a viable third party.
We're a LONG way from seeing anything like that happen.
The two major parties have too much invested in maintaining the status quo for either of them to allow a third to solidify and and become a true force in government.
For one thing, the rise of such a party would reveal the phoniness of the Republicans and Democrats, as well as exposing the fact that their really isn't much substantial difference between them.
And I have to ask Noah:
What makes you believe that Hillary is qualified to President? I don't think she was even legitimately qualified to be a senator.
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Dr. Noah
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She's a lot more qualified than GWB was his first term. She has actual experience working in Washington from both the legislative and executive standpoints. She has experience running a business and not running it into the ground. And most of all, she knows the value of diplomacy and negotiation, something I think certain politicians would do well to learn themselves.
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I won't disagree that Bush has no business being President, but I'm still at a loss with your stance on Hillary.
I lived in Arkansas during my college years, and for a short while after, and am familiar with her background. As far as I know, she never ran a business. She was an attorney with the Rose Law Firm. Her husband may have put her in charge of developing a new national health care plan, but she failed quite miserably at it. And her business acumen can be pretty much summed up by Whitewater.
As for her experience as a senator, if you want to give her that point, then you have to give Dubya the governorship of Texas.
Plus, from an image standpoint, I think it would be more difficult to present her as viable candidate than you may believe. She's a frumpy women with a tendency to devolve into a strident harpy when she's trying to make a point.
I just don't like her as candidate. I'm not saying she won't run, and there's no way I can say that she'd fail, but I'm just not into her at all.

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