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| Hoss | May 31 2005, 11:48 AM Post #76 |
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We are not talking about victimless crimes in either instance. |
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| Dr. Noah | May 31 2005, 12:06 PM Post #77 |
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victimless crime n : an act that is legally a crime but that seem to have no victims; "he considers prostitution to be a victimless crime" Who is the victim? |
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| Minuet | May 31 2005, 12:13 PM Post #78 |
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^^^ The spouse, children, or parents of the gambler. |
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| Hoss | May 31 2005, 12:13 PM Post #79 |
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Society is the victim. For example, the prostitution industry destroys families, harming children's futures, reducing the likelihood of children becoming productive members of society to their full potential. A similar arguement can be made for gambling. We have lots of laws and programs to protect society in general. |
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| Dr. Noah | May 31 2005, 12:15 PM Post #80 |
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It could be argued by making gambling and hard liquor illegal would cause more damage to society by increasing funding for organized crime. |
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| Hoss | May 31 2005, 12:17 PM Post #81 |
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I don't think that it would be a particularly persuasive and convincing arguement. |
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| Admiralbill_gomec | May 31 2005, 12:19 PM Post #82 |
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Airbus is a prime example... |
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| Dr. Noah | May 31 2005, 12:22 PM Post #83 |
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As is the nuclear power industry. 38, I think people who lived through the Prohibition era would disagree. |
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| Hoss | May 31 2005, 12:24 PM Post #84 |
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There was crime as a result of prohibition, no arguement. But alcohol consumption went way down. It was effective. |
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| Dr. Noah | May 31 2005, 12:29 PM Post #85 |
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Organized crime was never so organized during that time. They had entire cities bought and paid for. |
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| Hoss | May 31 2005, 12:54 PM Post #86 |
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Just depends on how you define organized crime. There was lots of organized crime before and after prohibition. The Chicago and Detroit organized crime gang activity of the 1920s has just been glamorized to such a large extent that it seems worse. |
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| Dr. Noah | May 31 2005, 12:58 PM Post #87 |
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But during that time they made more money than ever. It is well known that the mobs would harrass businesses into cooperating or risk execution. Public officials were also similarly bribed or blackmailed or assasinated. I don't think it's very convincing for someone to look back on history when such terrible things happened and say "it wasn't so bad" such as slavery. How would you know? |
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| Fesarius | May 31 2005, 01:09 PM Post #88 |
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Maybe we need a slavery thread. I don't for a moment believe I had anything to do with slavery. To me, the concept of racial guilt is destructive, not redemptive. |
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| Dr. Noah | May 31 2005, 01:36 PM Post #89 |
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I'm just saying it's pretty disingenuous to look back at an event you never experienced and say it wasn't so bad. I could say that some things in history weren't so bad but I have no idea unless I myself experienced it. I think it's dangerous to do so. |
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| Fesarius | May 31 2005, 01:37 PM Post #90 |
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^^^ With that I would agree. |
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