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Vets Sue Rumsfeld
Topic Started: May 25 2005, 11:37 AM (586 Views)
Admiralbill_gomec
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gvok
May 26 2005, 09:42 AM
Admiralbill_gomec
May 26 2005, 10:39 AM
gvok
May 26 2005, 06:23 AM
Admiralbill_gomec
May 25 2005, 10:36 PM
gvok
May 25 2005, 09:27 PM
I hope Bush's precious tax cut was worth screwing our vets.

YOU HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT! :realmad:

If you feel so guilty about something of which you know nothing, SEND YOURS BACK! Every dime of your reduced tax rate. Figure it out, write a check, and send it back.

Sending my check back will not stop the vets from being screwed. Nor will it reduce the budget deficit in any significant way. The only responsible way to deal with these issue is have a responsible tax policy.

So, in other words, you're being a hypocrite.

I am not being a hypocrit. I advocate sound tax policy. I also do not have to resort to personal attacks to buttress my argument.

Yet you won't give back the tax cut you blame the Bush administration for. That is hypocrisy. It is not a personal attack, but rather a definition and an observation. You are exhibiting signs of hypocrisy. Figure it out. You personally benefit from something about which you complain. I don't think anyone would disagree with my assessment (well, except for you, but that is because the truth hurts).

There is a solution, as listed above. Figure out how much you and your family benefit from the Bush tax cuts, write a check, and send it back with an explanation why you can not take it. It is called "standing on principle."
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gvok
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As I said, responsible tax policy is the solution. Sending my check to the government will not accomplish this. There's nothing hypocritical about it. In fact if you want a real example of hypocracy, how about a person who states he is pro-military and yet has no problem with the fact that his tax cut necessitates cutting veterans' benefits.
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Fesarius
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Gvok,

You never know. Sending in your check might help out a bit. ;)
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gvok
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Nope. I will stick with electing officials who favor rational and responsible tax policies.
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Fesarius
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Gvok,

Okay, but you can still mail in your check and continue to campaign for those that you feel ought instead to hold the oval office. :)
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gvok
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Mailing my check in would only encourage them to continue with their present policy.
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Fesarius
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Gvok,

Not if you marked your check "Pay to the order of the Democratic Party Only." ;)
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gvok
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I take your response as an acknowledgement of the rediculousness and specious nature of that particular argument. ;)
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Dr. Noah
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This is a ridiculous argument. I suppose for whatever we support we should send money to the government and ask them to earmark the check for that policy. Please. I doubt very many people would be sending checks to help bailout private industries like airlines, but nonetheless, it's something the government does regardless of what you or I think about it.
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I take your response as an acknowledgement of the rediculousness and specious nature of that particular argument.

Gvok,

Yes, I do. My memory is quite good, even if I play coy on occasion. ;)
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Admiralbill_gomec
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gvok
May 26 2005, 12:07 PM
In fact if you want a real example of hypocracy, how about a person who states he is pro-military and yet has no problem with the fact that his tax cut necessitates cutting veterans' benefits.

You must be talking about someone else, because you certainly are not talking about me. I have never said any such thing. If you are, I am calling you a liar flat out.

gvok, you lost this one. . Tax cuts are NOT cutting veteran's benefits. You cited ONE location and you don't know all of the circumstances behind it. Are those residents afforded care at any other location? Is this part of a consolidation to afford ALL veterans better care? Face it, you do not know,

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Gentlemen if this cannot be discussed civilly the thread will be closed.

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Admiralbill_gomec
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May 26 2005, 03:47 PM
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Gentlemen if this cannot be discussed civilly the thread will be closed.

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You might wish to edit his baiting comment above, which is in my quote...

(Please remove as you see fit)
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Minuet
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Admiralbill - which baiting response would that be.

The one where he responds to YOU calling him a hypocrite????????????
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Admiralbill_gomec
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Yes, because I'm stating fact and he's just retorting with a lie.

Read what I wrote. (All of the posts, I mean.)

1) He has options which he could pursue yet chooses not to out of his own self-interest. I called him on it. 2) He chose to respond by attempting to attribute something to me that is factually untrue. He is using an ad hominem fallacy (since I might support something I must be against something else) to try and state it.

This would mean that I am 1) not baiting, and 2) he is.

Enjoy your supper :)
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