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| Tweet Topic Started: May 25 2005, 07:41 AM (226 Views) | |
| gvok | May 25 2005, 07:41 AM Post #1 |
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| Dr. Noah | May 25 2005, 09:40 AM Post #2 |
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We are beginning to see a fracturing in the GOP. Since the whole Bolton debate, a number of Republican representatives broke with the party to oppose him based on testimony of his former employees. I really really hope McCain runs again. His kind of honesty and integrity is exactly what the GOP needs right now. |
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| Fesarius | May 25 2005, 09:46 AM Post #3 |
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^^^ Well, my best friend (other than my wife ;)) is a Libertarian. He too wanted to vote for McCain, opining that their ideologies line up rather well. Me? I would vote for McCain in a heartbeat. Assuming his first name was 'Lucas.'
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| 24thcenstfan | May 25 2005, 09:47 AM Post #4 |
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Noah, I will agree with everything you have said with one change. I think the fracture in the GOP began when Bush announced his budget proposal...which included a reduction in Agriculture subsidies. The Agriculture industry is like sacred cow in some ways, and there was outrage over this across the board. |
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| Hoss | May 25 2005, 09:48 AM Post #5 |
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Sounds like a bunch of wishful thinking to me on the part of the opposition. Let us remember that a few short months ago the Republican Party not only defended its majorities, but increased them nearly everywhere. If a party is in chaos, it is the Democratic Party. |
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| Fesarius | May 25 2005, 09:53 AM Post #6 |
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Agreed. But they are entitled to that. I too agree that the Democratic party is eroding badly. Less money = erosion of their power base. |
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| Dr. Noah | May 25 2005, 09:54 AM Post #7 |
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Only time will tell if this is only wishful thinking. |
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| Fesarius | May 25 2005, 09:56 AM Post #8 |
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^^^ Noah, True enough. I really don't know what will occur, obviously. |
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| gvok | May 25 2005, 09:56 AM Post #9 |
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Agreed. I'd hold judgement until after the 2006 elections. |
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| Darthsith | May 25 2005, 10:14 AM Post #10 |
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I wonder if they have a McCain counter part for their much needed honesty and integrity? If they do and use him the next time around and not the guy how has the “best chance” of beating the republican candidate they may very well pull them selves out of this ruff patch they are in. We can only hope can't we? |
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| Dr. Noah | May 25 2005, 10:25 AM Post #11 |
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I thought Kucinich was the guy, but he couldn't get popular support. Wellstone would definately be the guy, but he died in an unfortunate "accident". |
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| Darthsith | May 25 2005, 10:32 AM Post #12 |
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Maybe what needs to be done is to take the loss now to insure a future win. As you said Kucinich could not get the popular support most likely because he didn’t really have what it took to win. But maybe it the Democrats take the long shoot and wind up losing they may revitalized their base come the next elections. Maybe the win at all costs mentality is only sinking them deeper into their whole, if they start assessing the cost of some of their victories and show that the issues are more important then power they will get back on the right track. |
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| Admiralbill_gomec | May 25 2005, 10:34 AM Post #13 |
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Exactly. Dems were saying the same thing in 2002, just before they were embarrassed in the mid-term elections. After all, whose fundraising is down because of their newly-elected leader? (Hint: It ain't the Republicans.) |
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| psyfi | May 25 2005, 10:41 AM Post #14 |
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Do you think he would bring hang his Winchester in the oval office? |
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| Fesarius | May 25 2005, 10:42 AM Post #15 |
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^^^ Yes, I do.
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