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What is your political party?
Democrat 1 (12.5%)
Republican 3 (37.5%)
Independent 4 (50%)
Total Votes: 8
How do you define yourself?
Topic Started: May 25 2005, 07:22 AM (288 Views)
who
Have light saber. Will travel.
I do not understand why the US has become so polarized. I consider myself an independent. I agree with one party on some issues, the other on other issues, and neither on some. It seems that there are fewer independents now. I do not understand this either.

For example, I think Bush has done a good job on terrorism except border security. I do not agree with Bush on Social Security. I do not think he is a bad person and I do not think he is a saint.

Each party represents different groups. The republicans represent the rich, the democrats the poor. Neither represents the middle class. Republicans get their financial support from business; democrats from hollywood, trial lawyers, and labor unions.

This is how I see it.
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gvok
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Independent.
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psyfi
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who
May 25 2005, 07:22 AM
I do not understand why the US has become so polarized. I consider myself an independent. I agree with one party on some issues, the other on other issues, and neither on some. It seems that there are fewer independents now. I do not understand this either.

For example, I think Bush has done a good job on terrorism except border security. I do not agree with Bush on Social Security. I do not think he is a bad person and I do not think he is a saint.

Each party represents different groups. The republicans represent the rich, the democrats the poor. Neither represents the middle class. Republicans get their financial support from business; democrats from hollywood, trial lawyers, and labor unions.

This is how I see it.

Since when are the Hollywood celebs, trial lawyers, and the labor unions THE POOR?
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Darthsith
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who
May 25 2005, 12:22 PM
It seems that there are fewer independents now.

I disagree, I think what you are seeing is more and more independents pick a particular side over the other at the moment. We live in a time that requires action, sitting on the fence just doesn’t cut it any more for many people. It doesn’t mean the independents who side with the republican party at this time consider them selves republicans or necessarily agree with much of what the republicans stand for and it doesn’t mean the independents who side with the democratic party at this time consider them selves democrats or necessarily agree with much of what the democrats stand for. It just means that they believe that the particular party they have chosen to has the best shoot at getting us through these times. Since this is a time that requires solidarity and not waviness they firmly stand be hind the party they have chosen even if they do not fully agree with them on all issues, giving the party they chose the best shot at furthering their agenda. If only people had this audited about America as a whole instead of political parties we would stand a much better chance at our endeavors.
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who
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psyfi
May 25 2005, 08:18 AM
who
May 25 2005, 07:22 AM
Each party represents different groups. The republicans represent the rich, the democrats the poor. Neither represents the middle class. Republicans get their financial support from business; democrats from hollywood, trial lawyers, and labor unions.

This is how I see it.

Since when are the Hollywood celebs, trial lawyers, and the labor unions THE POOR?

Each party has cross currents. Hollywood, trial lawyers, and the labor unions are not poor but they are mainly democrats. Just like the conservative Christians are not all rich but are supported by the republicans.
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who
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I also find it strange that people seem now to vote more a straight ticket. It seems that in the past people might want to vote differently for president, senator, and representative depending on the person rather than the party.
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gvok
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who
May 25 2005, 09:01 AM
I also find it strange that people seem now to vote more a straight ticket. It seems that in the past people might want to vote differently for president, senator, and representative depending on the person rather than the party.

That's true I think. For example, in 2006 I will be voting straight Democrat in the hopes of restoring balance to Congress.
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psyfi
psyfi
who
May 25 2005, 08:59 AM
psyfi
May 25 2005, 08:18 AM
who
May 25 2005, 07:22 AM
Each party represents different groups. The republicans represent the rich, the democrats the poor. Neither represents the middle class. Republicans get their financial support from business; democrats from hollywood, trial lawyers, and labor unions.

This is how I see it.

Since when are the Hollywood celebs, trial lawyers, and the labor unions THE POOR?

Each party has cross currents. Hollywood, trial lawyers, and the labor unions are not poor but they are mainly democrats. Just like the conservative Christians are not all rich but are supported by the republicans.

It is just that I don't see any of their supporting groups being for the poor. If the Democrats and their supporters were really for the poor they would have passed school vouchers long ago; instead, they are supporting another one of their major backers, the teachers' unions. The trial lawyers are not for the poor, they are for stopping tort reform of any kind and have the Democrats busy as little beavers working to build that dam. As for the labor unions which once truly did support the working class (not necessarily the poor), that was long ago in a galaxy far, far away. You also forgot other groups that give a lot of money to the Dems, namely People for the American Way and the ACLU---probably the most fair of the lot in that they support restricting religious expression from rich and poor alike.
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Fesarius
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Admiral
Independently Republican.
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24thcenstfan
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Something Wicked This Fae Comes
Other:

I don't have a political party or official affiliation (i.e. not even registered Independent).
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Dr. Noah
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I think it's clear that people of all walks of life choose thier political parties. It just happens that Democrats support social programs.
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Swidden
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Adm. Gadfly-at-large; Provisional wRench-fly at large
Moderately conservative or conservatively moderate...
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who
Have light saber. Will travel.
Dr. Noah
May 25 2005, 09:35 AM
I think it's clear that people of all walks of life choose thier political parties. It just happens that Democrats support social programs.

This is just not an honest response. Both parties support social programs.
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Dr. Noah
Sistertrek's Asian Correspondant
That's odd, I often hear conservatives talking about how social programs is akin to socialism.
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Admiralbill_gomec
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Really, aside from some in here, from where? I've never heard it from television, or reading the newspapers, or from listening to the radio. In other words, SOURCE?
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