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Who do you think Jesus was/is?
Topic Started: May 17 2005, 08:04 PM (590 Views)
Minuet
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Mosh ee ach with the ch pronounced like in Chanukka.
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Fesarius
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I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. The question asked what I thought and I gave my answer.

Minuet,

I understand that, and I echo your sentiments. I never thought you were doing anything else but answering the question. :)

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I think his was the most influential life ever lived.

With this I agree 100%. :)
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Minuet
May 17 2005, 11:03 PM
Mosh ee ach with the ch pronounced like in Chanukka.

Thanks! The site you linked is very informative. I saved the URL the last time I saw you link it.
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My personal opinion is that Jesus was a man and he is the son of God.


psyfi,

I liked your comment about Jesus being our elder brother. I tend to see him in this role as well. As someone who looks out for us and provides counsel.
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May 17 2005, 10:13 PM
My personal opinion is that Jesus was a man and he is the son of God.


psyfi,

I liked your comment about Jesus being our elder brother. I tend to see him in this role as well. As someone who looks out for us and provides counsel.

Exactly! I think that the idea of an elder brother also conveys the sense that we are of the same family which appeals to me. When I went to Catholic school there was a tendency to make Jesus so special that he seemed alien to regular humanity, but a brother is blood of our blood. He is our own and we are his. I like that thought.
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somerled
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Just a man with the gift of the gab, and who was not special other than that and the philosophy he spread.

If he was alive today he would be doing things like Billy Graham and those types of snake oil merchants.


PS : that's 3 votes for "just a man" , but only 2 are shown .... I'm certainly I voted correctly - another INVISION glitch ?
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May 18 2005, 01:23 AM
Just a man with the gift of the gab, and who was not special other than that and the philosophy he spread.

If he was alive today he would be doing things like Billy Graham and those types of snake oil merchants.

He is alive today. He'd come visit you, walk right through the door if only for but a moment you suspended doubt.
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Fesarius
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Precisely.
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May 18 2005, 07:55 AM
somerled
May 18 2005, 01:23 AM
Just a man with the gift of the gab, and who was not special other than that and the philosophy he spread.

If he was alive today he would be doing things like Billy Graham and those types of snake oil merchants.

He is alive today. He'd come visit you, walk right through the door if only for but a moment you suspended doubt.

No he wont . Considering he has been dead for 2000 years.
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somerled
May 18 2005, 02:23 AM
PS : that's 3 votes for "just a man" , but only 2 are shown .... I'm certainly I voted correctly - another INVISION glitch ?

Only two people on this thread have indicated that they think Jesus was just a man (you and Min). There is no Invision glitch.
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May 18 2005, 09:10 AM
psyfi
May 18 2005, 07:55 AM
somerled
May 18 2005, 01:23 AM
Just a man with the gift of the gab, and who was not special other than that and the philosophy he spread.

If he was alive today he would be doing things like Billy Graham and those types of snake oil merchants.

He is alive today. He'd come visit you, walk right through the door if only for but a moment you suspended doubt.

No he wont . Considering he has been dead for 2000 years.

Okay, whatever you say.
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May 18 2005, 09:25 AM
somerled
May 18 2005, 02:23 AM
PS : that's 3 votes for "just a man" , but only 2 are shown .... I'm certainly I voted correctly - another INVISION glitch ?

Only two people on this thread have indicated that they think Jesus was just a man (you and Min). There is no Invision glitch.

I do believe you are right , that's what happens when you are NOT paying attention properly.

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Fesarius
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No he wont . Considering he has been dead for 2000 years.

I disagree. However, disagreeing with others, and being allowed to do so in an environment of civility, is a positive aspect of this Board. It also demonstrates a modicum of maturity. :)
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Dr. Noah
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I would say that Jesus was just a man except that I think that he was more than that, he was an exceptional man who like Mohatma Ghandi, Sister Teresa and John Lennon used non-violence and their amazing compassion and charisma to reach out to millions of people and encourage peace and understanding as well as pacifism and tolerance. I think that these people are more than just people, but have some special connection to the divine, enlightened I suppose one would say in the Buddhist point of view, that they are able not only embrace the edicts of non-violence so completely but able to encourage millions of others to do so as well. I voted "Other".
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Other: A Man but also a Paranoid Schizophrenic with delusions of Grandeur, just like the garden variety cases that think they are Napolean, but he thought he was the Son of God.

Many of the less fortunate people of the time followed him cos they liked hearing things like rich men cant get into heaven and the like.

Some of his disciples might have picked up on the fact that he wasnt all there, but it didnt matter to them, they liked the notoriety of being famous in a way, or like the ideals he was talking of.


Sorry if this offends some people, but IMO it fits in with the story of what happened, I believe Jesus did really think he was the Son of God, or at least convinced himself over time.

Theres no real reason why God would send him to earth, the very cryptic "Jesus died for our sins" is too vague to nail down reason
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