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| Scientists snub Kansas evolution hearings | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: May 9 2005, 08:01 AM (286 Views) | |
| gvok | May 9 2005, 08:01 AM Post #1 |
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| Fesarius | May 9 2005, 08:10 AM Post #2 |
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^^^ I'm intrigued that they are referring to it as the "Theory of Evolution." Reading the claims of some one would think that it is an incontrovertible fact. |
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| somerled | May 9 2005, 08:18 AM Post #3 |
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Good on them. I would refuse to participate in this kind of BS too. It's about time the educators in Kansas got with the program and stopped forcing dogma in the guise of science down kids' throats. |
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| Fesarius | May 9 2005, 08:25 AM Post #4 |
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^^^ Somerled, I agree. The last thing we need is scientific dogma being taught as factual.
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| doctortobe | May 9 2005, 01:26 PM Post #5 |
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So what happens if the Board of Education rules in favor of the intelligent design advocates due to the lack of a counterargument? By favoring their own sensibilities over defending what they believe in, these scientists might just shoot themselves in the foot by having the thing that they would least desire occur. |
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| somerled | May 10 2005, 03:29 AM Post #6 |
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Teachers can refuse to cooperate and teach it. |
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| somerled | May 10 2005, 03:31 AM Post #7 |
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Or religious dogma Or pseudoscientific dogma Or bad science as dogma |
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| Fesarius | May 10 2005, 07:25 AM Post #8 |
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^^^ Somerled, I agree--100%.
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| psyfi | May 10 2005, 08:39 AM Post #9 |
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I believe in evolution. Nonetheless, I think the points being made about scientific dogma are valid. All of science rests on a metaphysical belief which is that everything within its purview is materialistic. Science is more than a method. It is a set of beliefs. It entails faith and is a faith. As Kuhn pointed out scientists perceptions are conditioned entirely by the ideas that they have been taught to associate with them. There is no ‘objective observation.' |
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| Dr. Noah | May 10 2005, 09:48 AM Post #10 |
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We teach science in public education, we don't teach philosophy. |
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| Fesarius | May 10 2005, 09:50 AM Post #11 |
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^^^ No philosophy is taught? I pity da foooo! |
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| Dr. Noah | May 10 2005, 09:59 AM Post #12 |
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In philosophy class, but not in science class. |
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| Fesarius | May 10 2005, 11:26 AM Post #13 |
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^^^ Okay, that is acceptable.
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| doctortobe | May 10 2005, 03:59 PM Post #14 |
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Then those teachers would be fired. The Board of Education is the entity that dictates what will and what will not be taught in public schools. Tell me, can you dictate what you will and will not do in your job to your boss? |
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| Fesarius | May 10 2005, 05:42 PM Post #15 |
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Doctortobe, Not to be contrary, but yes, I can. Our boss is actually our contract, although we do have reporting lines of sorts. I pretty much have carved out a niche for myself over the past ten years in my position in academe. Of course, that doesn't mean I can walk around naked and swear at people and get away with it. In other words, there are limits.
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