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Hmmm, what it staged?
Topic Started: Jan 29 2005, 01:27 AM (280 Views)
Dwayne
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A blog titled The Obsidian Order makes some points about a recent story from Iraq.

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The key and blindingly obvious point: there are at least three photojournalists from different outfits there exactly at the time it goes off! This is not a lucky coincidence. The pictures are clearly taken less than a minute after the original explosion and less than a minute apart. Also: all of the photographers are stringers, not regular staff photographers.


Something I thought disturbing about this story was the the media reported this negatively, when in fact, this is a positive story for the Iraqi police, because this is an example of the Iraqi forces stopping a terrorist attack, but you'd be hard pressed to find an example in the media where this is reported positively.
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Of course it was.

Just as car bombings and other acts of violence are scheduled for the morning so they can get on the evening news in the states. The insurgents KNOW this is a media war and that all they have to do is continue to crank out "press releases". The American media will throw it on the air without question.

The other day, the media showed pictures of destruction and announced that 11 people had been killed in preelection violence. Some enterprising soul looked at where those eleven people died and found out that it was not in one spot, but in seven different provinces. Rather than being the disaster that Kennedy insinuates that it is, Iraq, it turns out, is roughly as safe to live in as California is on any given night that the LA gangs aren't active.

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Jan 29 2005, 07:25 AM
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Of course it was.

Just as car bombings and other acts of violence are scheduled for the morning so they can get on the evening news in the states. The insurgents KNOW this is a media war and that all they have to do is continue to crank out "press releases". The American media will throw it on the air without question.

The other day, the media showed pictures of destruction and announced that 11 people had been killed in preelection violence. Some enterprising soul looked at where those eleven people died and found out that it was not in one spot, but in seven different provinces. Rather than being the disaster that Kennedy insinuates that it is, Iraq, it turns out, is roughly as safe to live in as California is on any given night that the LA gangs aren't active.

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:rotfl: :loling: Come now ! How often do people engage in suicide bombings , and road side bombings in California ? :loling: :rotfl: :loling:

Does California require over 100,000 heavily armed troops and hundreds of armoured vehicles and tanks to maintain the peace. :loling: :loling:
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Of course it was.

Just as car bombings and other acts of violence are scheduled for the morning so they can get on the evening news in the states.  The insurgents KNOW this is a media war and that all they have to do is continue to crank out "press releases".  The American media will throw it on the air without question.

The other day, the media showed pictures of destruction and announced that 11 people had been killed in preelection violence.  Some enterprising soul looked at where those eleven people died and found out that it was not in one spot, but in seven different provinces.  Rather than being the disaster that Kennedy insinuates that it is, Iraq, it turns out, is roughly as safe to live in as California is on any given night that the LA gangs aren't active.

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This goes along with my point about the American media being treasonous; betraying the trust of the American public. They simply cannot report day after day of bad news, and this includes Fox, without providing the full story or without putting it in context. As well, the media can no longer ignore the positive stories any further. The whole story must be reported! The more the media goes down this path, the more it becomes obvious ... at least to me ... that these actions are meant to demoralize and sap the American will to fight this war.
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somerled
Jan 29 2005, 12:45 PM
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Jan 29 2005, 07:25 AM
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Of course it was.

Just as car bombings and other acts of violence are scheduled for the morning so they can get on the evening news in the states.  The insurgents KNOW this is a media war and that all they have to do is continue to crank out "press releases".  The American media will throw it on the air without question.

The other day, the media showed pictures of destruction and announced that 11 people had been killed in preelection violence.  Some enterprising soul looked at where those eleven people died and found out that it was not in one spot, but in seven different provinces.  Rather than being the disaster that Kennedy insinuates that it is, Iraq, it turns out, is roughly as safe to live in as California is on any given night that the LA gangs aren't active.

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:rotfl: :loling: Come now ! How often do people engage in suicide bombings , and road side bombings in California ? :loling: :rotfl: :loling:

Does California require over 100,000 heavily armed troops and hundreds of armoured vehicles and tanks to maintain the peace. :loling: :loling:

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Somerled, p-l-e-a-s-e tell me that you really are not THAT dense.

No way someone would so completely MISS THE POINT of my post and then actually claim to be an engineering student.

But then, someone who supports a man who slits the throat of his daughter or considers the murder of the 4 contractors and the desecration of their bodies to be a valid publicy stunt isn't very bright to start with, is he? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Somerled, if you can't read the news once in awhile so that you can keep up with the conversation, stay out of it. You are just embarassing yourself. :rolleyes:

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Jan 29 2005, 07:54 AM
somerled
Jan 29 2005, 12:45 PM
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Jan 29 2005, 07:25 AM
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Of course it was.

Just as car bombings and other acts of violence are scheduled for the morning so they can get on the evening news in the states.  The insurgents KNOW this is a media war and that all they have to do is continue to crank out "press releases".  The American media will throw it on the air without question.

The other day, the media showed pictures of destruction and announced that 11 people had been killed in preelection violence.  Some enterprising soul looked at where those eleven people died and found out that it was not in one spot, but in seven different provinces.  Rather than being the disaster that Kennedy insinuates that it is, Iraq, it turns out, is roughly as safe to live in as California is on any given night that the LA gangs aren't active.

End of Personal Response

:rotfl: :loling: Come now ! How often do people engage in suicide bombings , and road side bombings in California ? :loling: :rotfl: :loling:

Does California require over 100,000 heavily armed troops and hundreds of armoured vehicles and tanks to maintain the peace. :loling: :loling:

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Somerled, p-l-e-a-s-e tell me that you really are not THAT dense.

No way someone would so completely MISS THE POINT of my post and then actually claim to be an engineering student.

But then, someone who supports a man who slits the throat of his daughter or considers the murder of the 4 contractors and the desecration of their bodies to be a valid publicy stunt isn't very bright to start with, is he? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Somerled, if you can't read the news once in awhile so that you can keep up with the conversation, stay out of it. You are just embarassing yourself. :rolleyes:

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People here keep telling me how great America is , now you are telling me a war zone is safer (than California). Mmmmm .... I'm glad I live here in Australia and not in the USA.

Oh - by the way , the bombing may well have been staged , and if the reporters knew about it beforehand then they should be prosecuted for being accomplices after the fact. Maybe Dwayne can come up with some hard proof to support this latest claim other than some conspiracy theorists blog.

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somerled
Jan 29 2005, 01:02 PM
Wichita
Jan 29 2005, 07:54 AM
somerled
Jan 29 2005, 12:45 PM
Wichita
Jan 29 2005, 07:25 AM
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Of course it was.

Just as car bombings and other acts of violence are scheduled for the morning so they can get on the evening news in the states.  The insurgents KNOW this is a media war and that all they have to do is continue to crank out "press releases".  The American media will throw it on the air without question.

The other day, the media showed pictures of destruction and announced that 11 people had been killed in preelection violence.  Some enterprising soul looked at where those eleven people died and found out that it was not in one spot, but in seven different provinces.  Rather than being the disaster that Kennedy insinuates that it is, Iraq, it turns out, is roughly as safe to live in as California is on any given night that the LA gangs aren't active.

End of Personal Response

:rotfl: :loling: Come now ! How often do people engage in suicide bombings , and road side bombings in California ? :loling: :rotfl: :loling:

Does California require over 100,000 heavily armed troops and hundreds of armoured vehicles and tanks to maintain the peace. :loling: :loling:

Personal Response

Somerled, p-l-e-a-s-e tell me that you really are not THAT dense.

No way someone would so completely MISS THE POINT of my post and then actually claim to be an engineering student.

But then, someone who supports a man who slits the throat of his daughter or considers the murder of the 4 contractors and the desecration of their bodies to be a valid publicy stunt isn't very bright to start with, is he? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Somerled, if you can't read the news once in awhile so that you can keep up with the conversation, stay out of it. You are just embarassing yourself. :rolleyes:

End of Personal Response

People here keep telling me how great America is , now you are telling me a war zone is safer (than California). Mmmmm .... I'm glad I live here in Australia and not in the USA.

Oh - by the way , the bombing may well have been staged , and if the reporters knew about it beforehand then they should be prosecuted for being accomplices after the fact. Maybe Dwayne can come up with some hard proof to support this latest claim other than some conspiracy theorists blog.

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I see you did not deny your support for the killing of girl children and or American civilians. :rolleyes:

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Jan 29 2005, 08:12 AM
somerled
Jan 29 2005, 01:02 PM
Wichita
Jan 29 2005, 07:54 AM
somerled
Jan 29 2005, 12:45 PM
Wichita
Jan 29 2005, 07:25 AM
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Of course it was.

Just as car bombings and other acts of violence are scheduled for the morning so they can get on the evening news in the states.  The insurgents KNOW this is a media war and that all they have to do is continue to crank out "press releases".  The American media will throw it on the air without question.

The other day, the media showed pictures of destruction and announced that 11 people had been killed in preelection violence.  Some enterprising soul looked at where those eleven people died and found out that it was not in one spot, but in seven different provinces.  Rather than being the disaster that Kennedy insinuates that it is, Iraq, it turns out, is roughly as safe to live in as California is on any given night that the LA gangs aren't active.

End of Personal Response

:rotfl: :loling: Come now ! How often do people engage in suicide bombings , and road side bombings in California ? :loling: :rotfl: :loling:

Does California require over 100,000 heavily armed troops and hundreds of armoured vehicles and tanks to maintain the peace. :loling: :loling:

Personal Response

Somerled, p-l-e-a-s-e tell me that you really are not THAT dense.

No way someone would so completely MISS THE POINT of my post and then actually claim to be an engineering student.

But then, someone who supports a man who slits the throat of his daughter or considers the murder of the 4 contractors and the desecration of their bodies to be a valid publicy stunt isn't very bright to start with, is he? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Somerled, if you can't read the news once in awhile so that you can keep up with the conversation, stay out of it. You are just embarassing yourself. :rolleyes:

End of Personal Response

People here keep telling me how great America is , now you are telling me a war zone is safer (than California). Mmmmm .... I'm glad I live here in Australia and not in the USA.

Oh - by the way , the bombing may well have been staged , and if the reporters knew about it beforehand then they should be prosecuted for being accomplices after the fact. Maybe Dwayne can come up with some hard proof to support this latest claim other than some conspiracy theorists blog.

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I see you did not deny your support for the killing of girl children and or American civilians. :rolleyes:

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What makes you think I support those kinds of crimes ?

Not trying to bait me are you ? :rollingpin:
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somerled
Jan 29 2005, 02:23 PM
What makes you think I support those kinds of crimes ?

Not trying to bait me are you ? :rollingpin:

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Nope, I'm not baiting you. I am QUOTING YOU.

Somerled
 

I was referring to the guy that Dwayne used as an example of an someone he thinks is "Jehardist Terrorist" and the man's attempted honour killing of his daughter, not the murders of a few contractors by Al Quaeda in Iraq (for the shock effect).

Everyone who watches the nightly news and reads news papers knows about the beheadings. As to Human Rights Watch's response - I haven't checked , how you telling us what they have to say. Bit of a distraction though don't you think ?


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.... man's attempted honour killing of his daughter....


She was a child, Somerled - A CHILD. What "honour" is there in a grown slitting the throat of A CHILD?

Also, he didn't "attempt" to kill her - he KILLED HER. When the first knife he used wasn't sharp enough, he got another and tried again. What did you think? She died of the flu - the slit throat wasn't relevant to her death? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

He killed her because HE COULD - the rest is BS.

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...  not the murders of a few contractors by Al Quaeda in Iraq (for the shock effect  ... 


Contractors who were engaged in helping to feed Iraqis, BTW.

"For shock effect" you say? You rant, rave and lecture about the supposed human rights abuses of the US, but the best you can say about burning 4 people alive and then tearing their limbs off and hanging their torsos from a bridge is "for shock effect"????????????

What a HYPOCRITE!

And for anyone who considers beheadings "a bit of a distraction" .....

:no: :no: :no: :no: :no: :no: :no: :no: :no: :no: :no:

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No, Somerled, I'm not baiting you - I'm QUOTING YOU.

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^^^ This is precisely what I have been saying on the other threads.

It's nice to see that someone else understands what I have been saying.
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This is a media war and it could have been stage....there are compling arguements for it being staged
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Jan 29 2005, 09:54 PM
^^^ This is precisely what I have been saying on the other threads.

It's nice to see that someone else understands what I have been saying.

I've always understood.
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Jan 29 2005, 09:31 PM
somerled
Jan 29 2005, 02:23 PM
What makes you think I support those kinds of crimes ?

Not trying to bait me are you ? :rollingpin:

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Nope, I'm not baiting you. I am QUOTING YOU.

Somerled
 

I was referring to the guy that Dwayne used as an example of an someone he thinks is "Jehardist Terrorist" and the man's attempted honour killing of his daughter, not the murders of a few contractors by Al Quaeda in Iraq (for the shock effect).

Everyone who watches the nightly news and reads news papers knows about the beheadings. As to Human Rights Watch's response - I haven't checked , how you telling us what they have to say. Bit of a distraction though don't you think ?


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.... man's attempted honour killing of his daughter....


She was a child, Somerled - A CHILD. What "honour" is there in a grown slitting the throat of A CHILD?

Also, he didn't "attempt" to kill her - he KILLED HER. When the first knife he used wasn't sharp enough, he got another and tried again. What did you think? She died of the flu - the slit throat wasn't relevant to her death? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

He killed her because HE COULD - the rest is BS.

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...  not the murders of a few contractors by Al Quaeda in Iraq (for the shock effect  ... 


Contractors who were engaged in helping to feed Iraqis, BTW.

"For shock effect" you say? You rant, rave and lecture about the supposed human rights abuses of the US, but the best you can say about burning 4 people alive and then tearing their limbs off and hanging their torsos from a bridge is "for shock effect"????????????

What a HYPOCRITE!

And for anyone who considers beheadings "a bit of a distraction" .....

:no: :no: :no: :no: :no: :no: :no: :no: :no: :no: :no:

Source

No, Somerled, I'm not baiting you - I'm QUOTING YOU.

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I'm not playing that game.

Sorry if it spoils your fun. ;)
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Jan 29 2005, 11:25 PM
I'm not playing that game.

Sorry if it spoils your fun. ;)

In other words, "I know I'm wrong, so I'm going to quit before I look like a bigger fool."
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Jan 30 2005, 04:39 AM
somerled
Jan 29 2005, 11:25 PM
I'm not playing that game.

Sorry if it spoils your fun. ;)

In other words, "I know I'm wrong, so I'm going to quit before I look like a bigger fool."

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You nailed that! :rotfl:

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