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UN beleives that natural disaters aren't natural; Blames America for them
Topic Started: Jan 21 2005, 02:41 PM (1,006 Views)
Admiralbill_gomec
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Jan 25 2005, 09:36 AM
Actually, I stayed in Beijing for a few days. The air is clean, I didn't have any trouble breathing there and I climbed a freaking mountain there during 90 degree heat.

Now LA on the other hand...........I had to take 2 allergy pills a day or I would have sneezing fits and watery eyes.

I was in Beijing in March of 2002. You could cut the air with a knife. We were issued surgical masks.
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Dr. Noah
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Must've been a bad day. I was there in the summer of 2001.
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Admiralbill_gomec
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Or yours must've been a good day when the wind was blowing...

Beijing often suffers from air inversions and the city is powered by coal-burning plants. Look it up.
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ds9074
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Global warming will be proven to be a hoax, and you'll all be slapping your heads and saying, "Look at the money we wasted."


IF YOU ARE RIGHT THERE WILL BE A LOT OF HEAD SLAPPING BUT CIVILISATION WILL CONTINUE.

IF THEORIES ON GLOBAL WARMING PROVE TRUE HUMAN DEVELOPMENT COULD BE SET BACK 1000 YEARS. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE END OF OUR WAY OF LIFE.


Id sooner have a slapped head in 50 years than be dead or living through hell.
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Dr. Noah
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As long as the fossil fuel industry has money to lobby, people will refuse to believe it until it's too late.
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Dandandat
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Time to put something here
ds9074
Jan 25 2005, 02:24 PM
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Global warming will be proven to be a hoax, and you'll all be slapping your heads and saying, "Look at the money we wasted."


IF YOU ARE RIGHT THERE WILL BE A LOT OF HEAD SLAPPING BUT CIVILISATION WILL CONTINUE.

IF THEORIES ON GLOBAL WARMING PROVE TRUE HUMAN DEVELOPMENT COULD BE SET BACK 1000 YEARS. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE END OF OUR WAY OF LIFE.


Id sooner have a slapped head in 50 years than be dead or living through hell.

I agree with you DS9
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ds9074
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Dandandat
Jan 25 2005, 08:16 PM
ds9074
Jan 25 2005, 02:24 PM
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Global warming will be proven to be a hoax, and you'll all be slapping your heads and saying, "Look at the money we wasted."


IF YOU ARE RIGHT THERE WILL BE A LOT OF HEAD SLAPPING BUT CIVILISATION WILL CONTINUE.

IF THEORIES ON GLOBAL WARMING PROVE TRUE HUMAN DEVELOPMENT COULD BE SET BACK 1000 YEARS. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE END OF OUR WAY OF LIFE.


Id sooner have a slapped head in 50 years than be dead or living through hell.

I agree with you DS9

But would you vote for people to put policies in place to tackle climate change and/or pay more for your petrol or allow a nuclear station to be built near where you live? etc.
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Admiralbill_gomec
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ds9074
Jan 25 2005, 01:24 PM
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Global warming will be proven to be a hoax, and you'll all be slapping your heads and saying, "Look at the money we wasted."


IF YOU ARE RIGHT THERE WILL BE A LOT OF HEAD SLAPPING BUT CIVILISATION WILL CONTINUE.

IF THEORIES ON GLOBAL WARMING PROVE TRUE HUMAN DEVELOPMENT COULD BE SET BACK 1000 YEARS. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE END OF OUR WAY OF LIFE.


Id sooner have a slapped head in 50 years than be dead or living through hell.

Oh what a crock.

Life on Earth will NOT end. You really need to rein in the hysteria. NOTHING WILL HAPPEN TO HUMANITY.

For example, growing seasons in northern latitudes may be lengthened, increasing crop yields. There's one benefit.

For the love of God, take a science course.

Have you thought of something else (benefit wise)... supposed global warming may be forestalling a new ice age? I don't think we're going into one, but liik at the charts... we're due. WHICH WILL END LIFE ON EARTH? Glaciers covering Canada and all of northern Europe, or a little water?

See, I can make predictions too... and they carry the same weight as those political scientists.
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Dr. Noah
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Yes, of course if you disagree with the esteemed Admiral, you must be ignorant.

I know not one person who is concerned with global warming is a "real" scientist.

What a pantload. ;)
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Admiralbill_gomec
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Jan 25 2005, 01:26 PM
As long as the fossil fuel industry has money to lobby, people will refuse to believe it until it's too late.

Oh please...

Tell me this. If global warming is a fact, why did our Congress vote down Kyoto 95-0 during the CLINTON Administration? Maybe someone realizes that this farce was nothing more than a way to boost third world countries at our expense through the social engineering policies beloved by the UN and nanny staters?
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Admiralbill_gomec
Jan 25 2005, 03:05 PM
Tell me this. If global warming is a fact, why did our Congress vote down Kyoto 95-0 during the CLINTON Administration? Maybe someone realizes that this farce was nothing more than a way to boost third world countries at our expense through the social engineering policies beloved by the UN and nanny staters?

I had no idea that it was voted down under Clinton. I wonder how Kerry voted, if he voted.
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Admiralbill_gomec
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Jan 25 2005, 03:04 PM
I know not one person who is concerned with global warming is a "real" scientist.


What does that mean?

(As for my comments about DS and taking a science course, look at the hysterical propaganda he's posting. A pantload is an understatement.)
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ds9074
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FOR YOUR INFORMATION I AM TAKING A COURSE STRONGLY RELATING TO CLIMATE CHANGE - Bsc Honors (THATS A BATCHELOR OF SCIENCE COURSE BY THE WAY) in Geography with Environmental Policy.

Esteemed scientists are predicting that Climate Change could cause human civilisation to be set back a 1000 years, it is not hysteria I am making up. The effects are not just going to be that its a couple of degrees warmer where you live. In some places the warming will be extreme, generally we will see very servere and unusual weather patterns (both warm and cold) and, as polar glaciars melt we will see sea level rises of several metres sufficient to inundate New York, London and many other places.

What you seem to have done is TWISTED what I have said into "ds says climate change is going to end life on earth". THAT IS NOT WHAT I AM SAYING, and indeed I would take issue with anyone who suggested that. Work I have done shows pretty clearly that the life sustaining mechanisms of this planet are quite capable of continuing and that greenhouse gas levels will subside due to natural processes of the carbon cycle over GEOLOGICAL TIME.

I am not even saying that the effects of climate change will wipe out humanity. We are a race of survivors and are highly adaptable. What I am saying is that our civilisation, what we have built and the way we lead our lives, that could be lost if we dont take action on climate change. When the Roman Empire fell the civilisation inhabiting the British Isles (I use this example because I know most about it, but the effect was similar across the old Roman Empire) fell apart and reverted back to a much similar way of life to pre Roman times. The great Roman Baths, villas, public buildings, mosaics etc were lost. Even 1000 years later we were only just starting to explore the new world and in many ways were still behind the classical period in terms of development. This what we risk.
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Dr. Noah
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Best to quit now ds. It's like talking to a wall.
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ds9074
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Jan 25 2005, 09:08 PM
Admiralbill_gomec
Jan 25 2005, 03:05 PM
Tell me this. If global warming is a fact, why did our Congress vote down Kyoto 95-0 during the CLINTON Administration? Maybe someone realizes that this farce was nothing more than a way to boost third world countries at our expense through the social engineering policies beloved by the UN and nanny staters?

I had no idea that it was voted down under Clinton. I wonder how Kerry voted, if he voted.

Perhaps they did it for POLITICAL REASONS, ie they thought there were votes to be had in opposing rather than supporting the treaty.

Also perhaps some felt it wasnt worth fighting such a hard battle for adoption of Kyoto by the US and sticking their necks out when the treaty is not going to solve the problem, it is mearly a stepping stone.

As Tony Blair says Kyoto is a start but to deal with the problem he is being adviced about by the Chief Scientific Advisor of the British Government, much more is going to be needed. Blair has said that he has been advised 60% reductions are going to be nessasary and I agree.
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