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New war in 2005?; Iran conflict rhetoric has begun
Topic Started: Jan 21 2005, 11:48 AM (400 Views)
Admiralbill_gomec
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Jan 21 2005, 12:19 PM
Perhaps if they were still alive. My point is, daddy Bush made the same promise to the Iraqi opposition as GWB is the Iranians. I just hope he means it more than his dad did.

You might want to actually RESEARCH this statement. I believe you'll find it in error. In particular, look to what President Bush 41 actually said and what happened, and what President Bush 43 actually said yesterday.
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ANOVA
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I think Voltaire said that "No man is free until all men are free"

I pondered this for awhile and believe it to be true.

When we allow tyranny to continue aren't we a slave to out own fears, to the staus quo. Do we not allow the fear of violent conflict bind us to a dictator a surely as if we were citizensz of the regime in question.

War with Iraq?

My money is still on Syria.

ANOVA
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Imagination is the mother.
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Intrepid2002
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It's called posturing and there's nothing wrong with that.

The US hasn't done anything YET in regards to Iraq.

I too, would put more money on Syria being the next recipient of good old American style democracy.
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somerled
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I too have noticed that the spin doctors are at it again.

What do you expect when they reelected a glory seeker like Bush for a second term ?
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Dwayne
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Khatami, travelling in Africa yesterday, seemed unconcerned about the consequences of a possible US attack.

“We have prepared ourselves,” he said. He added that he did not anticipate any “lunatic” military move by the US because Washington has too many problems in Iraq.

I think if America were to make a military move on Iran, the problems in Iraq would be reduced by about half.
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Admiralbill_gomec
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somerled
Jan 22 2005, 12:50 AM
I too have noticed that the spin doctors are at it again.

What do you expect when they reelected a glory seeker like Bush for a second term ?

There you go again...
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Fesarius
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Somerled,

President Bush is not a glory seeker. Nothing could be further from the truth.
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captain_proton_au
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Invade Iran, why not, I miss seeing stuff getting blown up on the nightly news
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Fesarius
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Ouch!
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captain_proton_au
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I wasnt trying to make any type of inferred comment.

Just that seeing those graphics of the smart bombs homing in on their targets was interesting, and with the initial invasion into Iraq, I was glued to the TV.

I think true change in Iran will come from inside from that countries younger generation.

There's so much nastier stuff going on in the world than anything thats happenned in or to do with Iraq, I'm sick of people going on about it
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Fesarius
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You're not the only one that is sick of it. I'm sure a couple of Americans are as well. :)
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Swidden
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captain_proton_au
Jan 22 2005, 01:03 PM
I think true change in Iran will come from inside from that countries younger generation.

You are quite probably right about that one CP.

If I recall correctly, the majority of the Iranian population is under 25 years of age. Meaning that most have no experience under the regime of the former Shah. They also have a tendency to look towards the West (obviously more towards Europe than the US).

The Guardian Council (predominantly conservative Islamic clerics) has interferred with the electoral process by declaring a considerable number of those seeking public office to be ineligible. Oddly enough, most of these were moderates looking to foster ties to the West. In time we may see a new revolution in Iran. Our efforts in Iraq may have slowed this change, but if we succeed in establishing a true democracy within Iraq, Iran may be one nation where the seed is already planted.

It will be a long and difficult road for them.
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