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US Presidential Inauguration; January 20, 2005
Topic Started: Jan 19 2005, 05:34 PM (1,040 Views)
ds9074
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Your system is different than ours, not better. Let it go.


Where did I say it was better? There are many elements of the US modal which are far superior. For instance when I was watching parts of the hearing for Ms Rice I thought it was great that the legislature had the power to interegate proposed candidates like that. Westminster has no such powers, they can ask questions about policy but they dont have a say in who gets the jobs.
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Dr. Noah
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I must object as well to the stereotyping of "lefties" here.

There are plenty of people who consider themselves progressive (although maybe not "lefties" ) that are very similar to conservatives and that do not "constantly whine about the world ending" which I am not sure what is meant by that.

Are we to be chastized for criticizing the current administration?

Erring on the side of caution?

What is it that "lefties" are "whining" about that is annoying you so that you would lump everyone on one side of the political spectrum into a constant activity of "whining about the end of the world"?
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Admiralbill_gomec
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Jan 20 2005, 03:19 PM
Admiralbill_gomec
Jan 20 2005, 01:01 PM
What a pantload.

Did you whine about the cost of Clinton's second inaugural, which after inflation cost more than Bush's second? I'll bet not. I'll bet you didn't even think about it.

AB, I didn't know then nor do I know now what the cost of Clinton's inauguration was. If it was anywhere near Bush's, I certainly would frown on it just the same. Why do you ASSUME I'd be hypocritical? :angry:

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As for the price tag on this inauguration, it gets a    from me too.  (Compare that to the initial $15 million that was pledged for Tsunami aid.  I can see where our priorities are...  )


I thought this incredibly petty. You don't know the details as to how tsunami aid was initially organized, so you are comparing apples to watermelons.

At first WE DID NOT KNOW THE DEGREE OF DEVASTATION of the tsunami. Freeing up immediate credit for those nations in need was the RIGHT thing to do. We knew that this wouldn't be a fraction of the sum total, which didn't include the day-to-day operations of an aircraft carrier group (about $10 million per day). Just because another nation offered more at first means ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!! Get it? Do I have to paint a picture for you with lots of pretty colors? Stop this "making issues out of non-issues" crap.
We gave more because there was world-wide scorn not necessarily because we would have done so anyway. Maybe we would have and maybe we wouldn't have. We'll never know because the scorn followed and so did Bush's reaction. All I'm saying is it didn't take scorn to get other countries to contribute more IMMEDIATELY. I found this President's actions frankly embarrassing and he should be ashamed!

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No, I think you are being PETTY. PETTY! Move the f*** on and get over this. We live in the greatest nation on Earth and you lefties can only bitch and moan about how the end of the world is coming. IT ISN'T! Just cut it out.  :angry:
Oh so now a different viewpoint from yours is "petty". Well I found your style of commentary here petty and quite unbecoming of a moderator! :angry:

The cost of Clinton's second inaugural was comparable (more, factoring in inflation). Now you know.


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We gave more because there was world-wide scorn not necessarily because we would have done so anyway.


Bull. You DO NOT know that. You are supposing, most likely based on what you want to believe.

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I found this President's actions frankly embarrassing and he should be ashamed!


I didn't, and neither did the rest of the country, except for the ABB crowd. What did he do that was embarrassing? Not hand over the keys to the Treasury and say "help yourself"? Bull. YOU DO NOT KNOW what the plan was to deal with the disaster. Just let it the f*** go. I've told you what a carrier group costs to run per day. Aside from the Brits, who else offered that kind of help? Hmmm?

No, your carping and whining is petty. I've noticed this behavior before... someone in the MSM creates a Bush "controversy" and you jump all over it without bothering to check the facts. I also find that petty, but amusing, "Captain Lefty."

As for being a moderator, I do not moderate this forum. My style of commentary is quite restrained over what I'd like to say to the crowd who needs to get over themselves and start being Americans again. :realmad:
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Dr. Noah
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I guess if you don't like the president you're not really an American right AB?

Did you have this same reaction to the venomous ire directed at Clinton?
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Admiralbill_gomec
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Why the hell can't you bunch get over your petty little selves and be Americans again?

This is about the country. IT IS NOT ABOUT YOU AND WHATEVER LITTLE DISAGREEMENT YOU HAVE OVER THE PRESIDENT'S POLICY.

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Admiralbill_gomec
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Jan 20 2005, 03:27 PM
I guess if you don't like the president you're not really an American right AB?

Did you have this same reaction to the venomous ire directed at Clinton?

I never supported what was directed at Clinton WHEN HE WAS PRESIDENT. First of all, he was my CINC, and I do not disrespect he who is at the top of the chain of command.

You make it personal. Rather than dislike the man but respect the office, you lump the two together. IT IS NOT ABOUT YOU, YOU SELFISH GOOBERS!
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Dr. Noah
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I am an American, and the fact that I don't like the current leadership doesn't change that.

Contrary to your opinion, my opposition to the president's policies does not make me a danger to the country.

Blind following and rampant nationalism is a far greater danger than dissent.

How do you know I disrespect the office?

What behavior is that attributed to?
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Admiralbill_gomec
Jan 20 2005, 04:26 PM
I didn't, and neither did the rest of the country, except for the ABB crowd. What did he do that was embarrassing? Not hand over the keys to the Treasury and say "help yourself"? Bull. YOU DO NOT KNOW what the plan was to deal with the disaster.

I've noticed this behavior before... someone in the MSM creates a Bush "controversy" and you jump all over it without bothering to check the facts.

I thought the same thing when this made up issue first started to make the rounds. I believe 100% that if Bush did give a lot at the beginning we would have heard people complain that Bush was giving to much and how it was going to negatively effect our economy and how we where going to make our children pay for our generosity. If you look hard enough for anything you will find it – that includes fault.
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Dr. Noah
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True, we have already deficit spended our asses off and are continuing to do so now. It would be difficult to afford relief efforts especially with two wars and a planned mission to Mars, and of course the lavish inauguration bash.
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Going back to my comments about the Oath of Office...


Don't these words bring a proud tear to your eye?

Article. II. Section. 1. Clause 8
 
Affirmation:--"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."
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Admiralbill_gomec
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Jan 20 2005, 03:25 PM
I must object as well to the stereotyping of "lefties" here.

There are plenty of people who consider themselves progressive (although maybe not "lefties" ) that are very similar to conservatives and that do not "constantly whine about the world ending"  which I am not sure what is meant by that. 

Are we to be chastized for criticizing the current administration?

Erring on the side of caution?

What is it that "lefties" are "whining" about that is annoying you so that you would lump everyone on one side of the political spectrum into a constant activity of  "whining about the end of the world"?

Sorry I missed this one earlier:

Progressive... HA! Regressive is more like it.

As for "chastizing" the administration, ALL YOU DO IS FIND FAULT. Bush could have the ability to walk on water and you'd fault him for not swimming like the rest of us.

You don't err on the side of caution. Your side OBSTRUCTS. You want to forget that the most important event in recent history ever existed and nitpick everything the administration does to prevent another one. It is vindictive, it is wrong, and some of it (especially Messrs. Kennedy and Kerry) borders on treason.

Today you are whiningg about the inauguration costing too much. Last week it was the tsunami. The week before it was oil prices. You whine, but never offer solutions. You are free to criticize, but don't give other options. In my opinion, those on the left side of the aisle live in the past, know that their power base is eroding, and will do absolutely anything, including manipulate a sycophantic press, fix elections, and lie to get their power base back.
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Admiralbill_gomec
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Jan 20 2005, 03:38 PM
True, we have already deficit spended our asses off and are continuing to do so now. It would be difficult to afford relief efforts especially with two wars and a planned mission to Mars, and of course the lavish inauguration bash.

Where's that broken record smiley (or is this more baiting)?
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ds9074
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Don't these words bring a proud tear to your eye?


QUOTE ( Article. II. Section. 1. Clause 8)
Affirmation:--"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."



honestly, no :lol: ;)
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Admiralbill_gomec
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Jan 20 2005, 03:43 PM
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Don't these words bring a proud tear to your eye?


QUOTE ( Article. II. Section. 1. Clause 8)
Affirmation:--"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."



honestly, no :lol: ;)

It does to mine...
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Admiralbill_gomec
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Jan 20 2005, 03:30 PM

Contrary to your opinion, my opposition to the president's policies does not make me a danger to the country.

If you work in opposition to those policies it sure is!!!
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