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Was it a hate crime?
Topic Started: Jan 16 2005, 02:37 PM (772 Views)
Minuet
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You know what I don't understand. How come it is so easy for Somerled to see Roman Catholics as indoctrinated, but is so blind to indoctrination of Muslims.

What more proof do we need of Somerled's bigotry. Roman Catholics are indoctrinated. Jews are religious zealots. But Muslims are merely misunderstood.

So why are we reading an article about a possibly religiously motivated crime in the US that is likely perpetuated by these misunderstood Muslims and yet I have never once seen a similar story where a Catholic or Jew murdered a Muslim in the US. :shrug:
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Dwayne
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Jan 23 2005, 03:17 PM
Yet anyone who can reduce Dwayne's witty retort to a moronic "listen jacka$$" can't be all bad.

Actually my response to somerset was...
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No, jacka$$, you get more specific.
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somerled
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Minuet
Jan 23 2005, 05:31 PM
You know what I don't understand. How come it is so easy for Somerled to see Roman Catholics as indoctrinated, but is so blind to indoctrination of Muslims.

What more proof do we need of Somerled's bigotry. Roman Catholics are indoctrinated. Jews are religious zealots. But Muslims are merely misunderstood.

So why are we reading an article about a possibly religiously motivated crime in the US that is likely perpetuated by these misunderstood Muslims and yet I have never once seen a similar story where a Catholic or Jew murdered a Muslim in the US. :shrug:

Doesn't get the same press ?

Paranoia about muslims ?

People looking for evidence to prove muslims are evil ?

You pick.
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somerled
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Dwayne
Jan 23 2005, 05:38 PM
ANOVA
Jan 23 2005, 03:17 PM
Yet anyone who can reduce Dwayne's witty retort to a moronic "listen jacka$$" can't be all bad.

Actually my response to somerset was...
Quote:
 
No, jacka$$, you get more specific.

Still waiting for you provide evidence.

No wait - it's you can't , it's just another dwaynism .
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Dwayne
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somerled
Jan 23 2005, 10:49 PM
Dwayne
Jan 23 2005, 05:38 PM
ANOVA
Jan 23 2005, 03:17 PM
Yet anyone who can reduce Dwayne's witty retort to a moronic "listen jacka$$" can't be all bad.

Actually my response to somerset was...
Quote:
 
No, jacka$$, you get more specific.

Still waiting for you provide evidence.

No wait - it's you can't , it's just another dwaynism .

You've already been proven wrong.
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somerled
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Dwayne
Jan 23 2005, 11:10 PM
somerled
Jan 23 2005, 10:49 PM
Dwayne
Jan 23 2005, 05:38 PM
ANOVA
Jan 23 2005, 03:17 PM
Yet anyone who can reduce Dwayne's witty retort to a moronic "listen jacka$$" can't be all bad.

Actually my response to somerset was...
Quote:
 
No, jacka$$, you get more specific.

Still waiting for you provide evidence.

No wait - it's you can't , it's just another dwaynism .

You've already been proven wrong.

How ?
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somerled
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Jan 23 2005, 03:17 PM
Somerled:

Mahommed himself approved of beheading for infidels. He basically said that any form of death except burning was alright. Burning was a punishment reserved for god alone.

The Suadis have been considered moderate secular leaders, yet they still alow for the beheading of converts and ban any religious conversion in the country.

The Egyptian government is secular but it has allowed the fundementalist to control the colleges and the print media. The result has been protests from the coptic Christians in egypt as their rights are infringed.

Islam as a religion, culture or society is not one founded on peace and tolerance.

Quite the contray its founder used war and was intolerant of other views.

Why do I feel like I'm repeating myself? Oh, wait, I am repeating myself.

Yet anyone who can reduce Dwayne's witty retort to a moronic "listen jacka$$" can't be all bad.


ANOVA

And so did christian religious leaders, who also regularly tortured, garrotted and burnt at the stake a great many innocent people at the same time.

And Bush and company are very cosy with Suadi Arabia's rulers and the Egyptian's aren't they.
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somerled
Jan 23 2005, 11:15 PM

And Bush and company are very cosy with Suadi Arabia's rulers and the Egyptian's aren't they.



Yes, because that is strategically smart.


I know it's shocking to some that the US would actually act in it's own
self-interest. What a coincidence that every other nation on earth does the
same thing.

Yet for some reason when the US uses it's power within the realm of international power politics, that's considered "bad" by the left. Or by the
French.

The world is not a fairy tale. We are not at war with the muslim religion,
but by extremists and organized terror cells that have perverted Islam for their
destructive and power-hungry purposes.

The Arab world and it's culture is struggling through these times of change
and modernization. Kuwait has adjusted well, for instance, but other countries
are still having problems. Eventually the Arab world is going to have to decide
that it wants peace, and work to help us solve the Palestinian-Isreali problem.

Many Arab nations have their own agenda. And are playing their own kind
of games with the west. Quit looking at them like hapless victims. If the
Middle Eastern arab nations didn't want us to be there, we wouldn't be there.

The Saudis want a continued and powerful US presence in the middle east,
as does Kuwait and Jordan.

Niether do these Arab nations want Iran developing nucleur weapons.

Even Libya is attempting to reform it's image with the west, and has invited
renewed and secure US and western investment. Plus totally unrestricted
weapons inspectors from the UN and UK.

And not one Arab nation misses SADDAM HUSSEIN. If you don't believe me,
just ask them.

And Iraq isn't the end of the world. The loss of life there doesn't even compare
to the genocidal tragedy in Rwanda a few years ago; a mere incident that most
people have already forgotten, particularily the UN and the Clinton Administration.

Apparantly ethnic genocide doesn't interest the Euro peaceniks unless the
USA is involved.

In fact, nothing seems to interest the "Peace" lobby unless it involves guilting
America.

China could brutally invade Taiwan tomorrow and slaughter thousands. The
leftist peaceniks would probably rush to the defense of China and find a way to
blame it on the US.

I'm not distinctly directing these remarks to anyone in particular; I do respect
the thoughts and opinions of others during these political discussions, regardless
of stripe.

Thanx. :news:


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Dwayne
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somerled
Jan 24 2005, 02:15 AM
And so did christian religious leaders, who also regularly tortured, garrotted and burnt at the stake a great many innocent people at the same time.

This is 2005, not 1005.
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somerled
Jan 24 2005, 02:01 AM
Dwayne
Jan 23 2005, 11:10 PM
somerled
Jan 23 2005, 10:49 PM
Dwayne
Jan 23 2005, 05:38 PM
ANOVA
Jan 23 2005, 03:17 PM
Yet anyone who can reduce Dwayne's witty retort to a moronic "listen jacka$$" can't be all bad.

Actually my response to somerset was...
Quote:
 
No, jacka$$, you get more specific.

Still waiting for you provide evidence.

No wait - it's you can't , it's just another dwaynism .

You've already been proven wrong.

How ?

Pull your head out of your a$$ and reread this: http://invisionfree.com/forums/SisterTrek/...ndpost&p=628797

And then reread this: http://invisionfree.com/forums/SisterTrek/...ndpost&p=629008

I own your a$$...

You've been proven wrong, and your pathetic little game of 'prove you proved me wrong' isn't winning you any points with anyone except for maybe Jeff and maybe a couple others.
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somerled
Jan 23 2005, 09:46 PM
Minuet
Jan 23 2005, 05:31 PM
You know what I don't understand. How come it is so easy for Somerled to see Roman Catholics as indoctrinated, but is so blind to indoctrination of Muslims.

What more proof do we need of Somerled's bigotry. Roman Catholics are indoctrinated. Jews are religious zealots. But Muslims are merely misunderstood.

So why are we reading an article about a possibly religiously motivated crime in the US that is likely perpetuated by these misunderstood Muslims and yet I have never once seen a similar story where a Catholic or Jew murdered a Muslim in the US.  :shrug:

Doesn't get the same press ?

Paranoia about muslims ?

People looking for evidence to prove muslims are evil ?

You pick.

Catholics did not fly jets into buildings on 9/11/01.

Catholics do not strap explosives and nails on their body, stroll onto a bus or into a pizza restaurant, and blow themselves up.

Catholics do not take hostages and then behead them for broadcast on the Internet.

No one is being paranoid about fanatical Islam. You, on the other hand, hate Catholics and Jews.
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somerled
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Dwayne
Jan 24 2005, 06:50 AM
somerled
Jan 24 2005, 02:15 AM
And so did christian religious leaders, who also regularly tortured, garrotted and burnt at the stake a great many innocent people at the same time.

This is 2005, not 1005.

Examples Witch burnings in the 1700s .

The Irish troubles.

The Baulkan troubles. (Kosovo Conflict)

You want racially and religiously motivated hate endulged in by fundamentalist christians , based on religion or race, all need do is look in your own backyard. The KKK and RELIGIOUS CONFLICT & INTOLERANCE IN THE NEWS , has a large number of links that give examples of religious biggotry.
(And no I haven't more than sampled the links - many more recent extracts given refer to american christian intolerance and even incitements to hate crimes against non-christians and other minorities).

Or to see how these might be motivated , pick up that bible you are so fond of and take a look at what it says :
Intolerance by God in the Old Testament
Religious intolerance in the Old Testament)
Religious intolerance in the New Testament
Religious exclusivity in the (New Testament
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Minuet
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somerled
Jan 23 2005, 10:46 PM
Minuet
Jan 23 2005, 05:31 PM
You know what I don't understand. How come it is so easy for Somerled to see Roman Catholics as indoctrinated, but is so blind to indoctrination of Muslims.

What more proof do we need of Somerled's bigotry. Roman Catholics are indoctrinated. Jews are religious zealots. But Muslims are merely misunderstood.

So why are we reading an article about a possibly religiously motivated crime in the US that is likely perpetuated by these misunderstood Muslims and yet I have never once seen a similar story where a Catholic or Jew murdered a Muslim in the US.  :shrug:

Doesn't get the same press ?

Paranoia about muslims ?

People looking for evidence to prove muslims are evil ?

You pick.

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: Your comebacks are so pathetic

What reason would the press have to suppress a story like that? The history of the press shows that they would jump on any story that would vilify a Westerner or a Jew. For evidence just see the unbalanced coverage Israel gets. Also see the coverage that profiling at airports has recieved. You cannot even search a Muslim at the airport without getting mega coverage about how prejudiced we all are against Muslims.

The press would not suppress anything.
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somerled
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Minuet
Jan 24 2005, 10:01 AM
somerled
Jan 23 2005, 10:46 PM
Minuet
Jan 23 2005, 05:31 PM
You know what I don't understand. How come it is so easy for Somerled to see Roman Catholics as indoctrinated, but is so blind to indoctrination of Muslims.

What more proof do we need of Somerled's bigotry. Roman Catholics are indoctrinated. Jews are religious zealots. But Muslims are merely misunderstood.

So why are we reading an article about a possibly religiously motivated crime in the US that is likely perpetuated by these misunderstood Muslims and yet I have never once seen a similar story where a Catholic or Jew murdered a Muslim in the US.  :shrug:

Doesn't get the same press ?

Paranoia about muslims ?

People looking for evidence to prove muslims are evil ?

You pick.

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: Your comebacks are so pathetic

What reason would the press have to suppress a story like that? The history of the press shows that they would jump on any story that would vilify a Westerner or a Jew. For evidence just see the unbalanced coverage Israel gets. Also see the coverage that profiling at airports has recieved. You cannot even search a Muslim at the airport without getting mega coverage about how prejudiced we all are against Muslims.

The press would not suppress anything.

In the USA , it could cause a buyer strike and damage their profitability.
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