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Prince Harry wears Nazi costume to party
Topic Started: Jan 13 2005, 10:53 AM (840 Views)
Admiralbill_gomec
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About Hogan's Heroes... most of the "Nazis" were in fact Jewish. They thought it a great joke, showing how buffoonish the Nazis were.
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ds9074
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As far as I am aware the country which really does have strict anti Nazi laws is Germany itself. Those were put in place immediately after WW2, when who was running Germany??

While I can understand it in Germany I wouldnt be in favour of restrictions here. People shouldnt wear these kinds of things because they realise the offense they might cause not because the law says so. In a democracy John Cleese should be free to give the Nazi salute for comedy purposes.
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Hoss
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Directly after WWI, The USA and GB were running Germany and it was very important to get rid of the Nazis and display of Nazi colors and such might very well lead to violence. In 2004, however, one should be allowed make an ass of one's self if one desires.
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somerled
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It's a costume, no more , no less. It says nothing about his personality other than poor taste and a lack of good judgment.

(But what more can you expect from a person who comes from long line of inbreeders ?)

Now , if it came to light that he was a member of a neonazi or neofascist organisation , and he wore the outfit then , that would be an issue getting hot and bovered about if you were a pommy. For the rest of us - who cares ?

Since no one has come up with any such evidence , it's really just another royal non-event , all it did was sell papers for a few days.
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somerled
Jan 19 2005, 09:23 AM
For the rest of us - who cares ?

Well aparently Franco Frattini (the EU's justice and home affairs commissioner), cares enough to want to have Nazi symbols banned in all of its (EU) member countries. The article is posted further up the thread.
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Jan 19 2005, 09:40 AM
somerled
Jan 19 2005, 09:23 AM
For the rest of us - who cares ?

Well aparently Franco Frattini (the EU's justice and home affairs commissioner), cares enough to want to have Nazi symbols banned in all of its (EU) member countries. The article is posted further up the thread.

Is he being heavily lobbied , or is it his own idea ?

That's a bit disturbing , if true . Where did you read about it ?
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somerled
Jan 19 2005, 09:46 AM
24thcenstfan
Jan 19 2005, 09:40 AM
somerled
Jan 19 2005, 09:23 AM
For the rest of us - who cares ?

Well aparently Franco Frattini (the EU's justice and home affairs commissioner), cares enough to want to have Nazi symbols banned in all of its (EU) member countries. The article is posted further up the thread.

Is he being heavily lobbied , or is it his own idea ?

That's a bit disturbing , if true . Where did you read about it ?

Here is the article again...


Harry's Swastika Prompts Talk of EU Ban
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somerled
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24thcenstfan
Jan 19 2005, 09:48 AM
somerled
Jan 19 2005, 09:46 AM
24thcenstfan
Jan 19 2005, 09:40 AM
somerled
Jan 19 2005, 09:23 AM
For the rest of us - who cares ?

Well aparently Franco Frattini (the EU's justice and home affairs commissioner), cares enough to want to have Nazi symbols banned in all of its (EU) member countries. The article is posted further up the thread.

Is he being heavily lobbied , or is it his own idea ?

That's a bit disturbing , if true . Where did you read about it ?

Here is the article again...


Harry's Swastika Prompts Talk of EU Ban

I went back and found it.

Doesn't sound likely to get up. Which is probably a good thing.

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ds9074
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I'm not even sure the EU has competence over whether their should or should not be a ban. As far as I can see that is a matter for member states to decide.
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Fesarius
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Could there be a fine difference here between using the Nazi uniform as part of a gag and portraying them on screen as in Hogan's Heroes?

Yes, I think so.
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doctortobe
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Jan 19 2005, 07:19 AM
Directly after WWI, The USA and GB were running Germany and it was very important to get rid of the Nazis and display of Nazi colors and such might very well lead to violence. In 2004, however, one should be allowed make an ass of one's self if one desires.

Actually, Germany was divided into American, British, Soviet, and French sectors. Berlin was divided the same way I believe.
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cptjeff
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Yes- and they all combined, excpet for Russia's part.
But all those countries had similar ideas t the time... So they put in place pretty much the same laws regarding Nazis.

as for that proposal....
What happened to free speech? It's not just talking. It's self expression.
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CV6 Enterprise
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cptjeff
Jan 21 2005, 09:33 PM
Yes- and they all combined, excpet for Russia's part.
But all those countries had similar ideas t the time... So they put in place pretty much the same laws regarding Nazis.

as for that proposal....
What happened to free speech? It's not just talking. It's self expression.

We really didn't have the same idea as the Soviet Union. Remember, it took 44 years for East Germany to become free again.
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cptjeff
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yeah, but when it was split up we had the same ideas foe keeping order. I was referring to the No Nazi laws mentioned earlyer. Not basic values and beliefs.
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Fesarius
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What happened to free speech? It's not just talking. It's self expression.

Who says? But if you're correct, then I would submit--and I know you've probably heard this before--that just because you can say or express yourself whatever way you like, this does not give you the right to be heard or seen.
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