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| Tweet Topic Started: Jan 10 2005, 07:50 AM (2,297 Views) | |
| Hoss | Jan 11 2005, 08:29 AM Post #16 |
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Oh, a deleting I will go, a deleting I will go, da da da doobie do, deleting I will go. No name calling please. I also deleted the posts replying to the name calling as they didn't make sense and anyway, I gonna get some more coffee. |
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| Minuet | Jan 11 2005, 11:20 AM Post #17 |
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^^^ Sounds like I missed all the fun.
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| Fesarius | Jan 11 2005, 01:29 PM Post #18 |
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^^^ Naw, it's not much fun. But the coffee was quite good.
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| doctortobe | Jan 11 2005, 06:47 PM Post #19 |
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jeff, just how the devil do you group any of the islamofascists into the "freedom fighter" category when they are as likely to kill their own people as readily as the "foreign occupiers"? |
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| Fesarius | Jan 12 2005, 10:48 AM Post #20 |
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^^^ Because Jeff believes his teacher! J/K.
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| somerled | Jan 12 2005, 02:14 PM Post #21 |
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He might actually be listening to what his parents and other significant adults he knows are saying, not just his teachers (who I would guess are pretty polarised on the issue - like everyone else) and forming his own opinion from what he sees, hears and reads. |
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| Fesarius | Jan 12 2005, 02:32 PM Post #22 |
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^^^ Yes, that's possible. That is why I was sure to put 'J/K' in the post.
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| Admiralbill_gomec | Jan 12 2005, 02:45 PM Post #23 |
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... or not. |
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| Fesarius | Jan 12 2005, 02:54 PM Post #24 |
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^^^ And that too is possible.... |
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| cptjeff | Jan 12 2005, 05:47 PM Post #25 |
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Like I said, some are true freedom fighters, some are propaganda induced fighters, and some are the people with ulterior motives. If somone invaded your country what would you do? Yeah, you would pull out a shotgun and shoot those evil b@astards and anyone who liked them being there. again, it was the same way during the revolutionary war, only bullets were in short supply and tar and feathers wern't. and if you wnat a really good example, look at the french revolution- it was disagree or die. it would seem that during a major conflict such as a revolution or defending one's land, killing one's own countrymen is perfectly acceptable (maiming and tourturing is okay too...) Let me put it this way- Ghandi would approve of their goals, just not their ways. so would MLK. so would George Washington. so Would Thomas Jeforson, and for that matter, about all of our fouding fathers. some would even approve of the means! What was that about never judging until you've walked two moons in thir moccasins? or the updated version, walked a mile in thier shoes?
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| Admiralbill_gomec | Jan 12 2005, 05:50 PM Post #26 |
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For what freedom are these terrorists fighting? Jeff, what goes on in Iraq on January 30th? An ELECTION. For their right to SELF-DETERMINATION. Invaders do not do these kind of things. Liberators do. Do you know the difference between an invader and a liberator? Did we invade Germany in 1945? Japan? By the way, you don't know much about Ghandi. He deplored violence. |
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| cptjeff | Jan 12 2005, 05:55 PM Post #27 |
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I sad he would have approved of the goal, but not of the means of achiving it. what should be going on January 20? life without the US. and now some regions are being called too unsafe for voting. mainly regions that oppose the US and would back sombody who would tell us to get out. I can tell you already that the US backed canidate will win. and the US will secure oil interests in Iraq.. and make sure it keeps our form of government, which we are forcing upon them. I also remember headlinews in newspapers saying things like 'US INVADES IRAQ' and such. liberators are media- worldwide attention andpressuer. you mentioned Ghandi. who liberated India? the worldwide community, by forcing britain out, once the struggle for indepedance was heard about, and the brutality of the British was exposed. look of the definition of invade. it might suprise you that that means going into an area with hostile intent and without permission. ya know, what the US did with Iraq. |
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| ANOVA | Jan 12 2005, 06:11 PM Post #28 |
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I chose "Freedom Fighter" These brave souls who have submitted to the will of Alah are merely trying to free the world from the yoke of the false prophets and the "Christofascists" that would allow the great satan America to subjugate the Nation of Islam, the one true nation, the nation without borders. They must fight a greater jihad for their souls before they enter into the lesser jihad with the great satan America, puppet of the Zionist whoremongers in Israel. They must fight against American consumerism that would tempt them from the true path to paradise, total submission to the will of Allah as spoken by the Angel Gabriel to the prophet Mohammed. Really, just as useless as a somerled poll. ANOVA |
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| somerled | Jan 12 2005, 10:35 PM Post #29 |
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Freedom from interference by certain local and global economic and military powers who might be forcing themselves on them perhaps. Freedom from impirialism. Self determination. Separation. Freedom from persecution (minorities particularly). Removal of corrupt, and/or self serving governments, and from puppet regimes who pretend they are democratic but are not (really). Just a few, I'm sure there are others. As to self determination in Iraq, from what I have been hearing and readling, a good portion of Iraqis who are legitimately entitled to vote will be disenfranchised in the coming election (some pundits are indicating 40% of Iraqis , two guesses which 40% , are likely to be disenfranchised) - the excuse given is security at the polls (even with 150,000 or more foreign troops on the ground who are armed to the teeth to defend the voters), and fear of knocks in the dark afterwards. Doesn't wash, everyone who is entitled to vote gets to vote or the poll is illegitimate and we risk an escellation of the violence in Iraq (and perhaps beyond). |
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| doctortobe | Jan 12 2005, 10:47 PM Post #30 |
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Iraq can tell America to leave at any time. They have control of military planning in their country. Something that nasty old America gave to them as part of them taking control of their own nation. Truth be told, I think that the major reason why the terrorists want America out is so they can make Iraq into a dictatorship again.
So that's why they are demanding that people submit to the Taliban/Iranian style of Islamic law?
You mean the election? I thought that the "freedom fighters" said in a public statement that democracy was evil?
Strange, I thought that the majority of the problems were coming from the Sunnis, who used to have all the power. I thought that giving power to the Shiite and Kurd majority would be a good thing. I thought that democracy would bring freedom from persecution. But then, they are (by their own words) fighting against democracy remember?
Like the one that would be put in place if they took over? Seriously somerland, you don't ACTUALLY think the terrorists would just hand over control to the Iraqi people (who they regularly bomb and shoot) if America and her allies were to leave do you?
News flash. A number of Sunnis are REFUSING to vote. I would like articles to back up your statement since you seem to have made up the rest of your post. |
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