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Use of torture by USA
Topic Started: Dec 3 2004, 11:59 PM (294 Views)
Wichita
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Somerled, if you want to know what the US media is discussing, "google" it. Based on your past claims, you should know what those sources are.

Given that and given that the second article you posted is virtually identical to the first, it looks like you just trying to "bump" this topic up and that is not permitted.

Several people have told you they cannot discuss this further without a definition of torture and you have refused to provide one. Fine, that's your right, but it will cut down on the number of participants in the thread.

If there are enough people willing to discuss the issue without a definition, then the thread will stay alive. If there are not, the thread will fall off the first page.

The next time it looks "bumped" though, it will be closed.

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benetil
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I voted no. I have more personal problems with physical torture than I have with the examples of humiliation that we've seen in the media, though.

I've had difficulty with what I perceive to be double standards in this war in Iraq. When I see Islamic governments and Islamist organizations hold their populations to the same standards that we typically demand of our military, I'll feel like we have a level playing field.

When I see Islamist organizations detain and prosecute members of their organizations who commit atrocities (rather than honoring them), I'll be more willing to condemn our soldiers who mistreat enemy prisoners.

War is horrible - it represents and brings out the worst that humanity has buried in its nature.
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ANOVA
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The information should be used.

The person who commits toture should be prosecuted.

It seems that torture is now a reltivistic term. Pretty soon it will mean nothing.

ANOVA
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Dandandat
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ANOVA
Dec 5 2004, 12:58 PM
The information should be used.

The person who commits toture should be prosecuted.

This of course will cut back on endorsement of torture problem by using the information. But how long until no one talks to you out of fear you will prosecute them?
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ANOVA
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Huh?

I get information from an interrogation. I use it. I assume that those who got the information were in compliance with the rules of land warfare and the Geneva Convention when they interogated the individual. If and when it comes to light that the information was gained usinfg torture the interogator is investigated charged and brought to justice in accordance with the UCMJ.

ANOVA

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24thcenstfan
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I voted No.
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