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| How do some leftist come to conclude Bush=Hitler? | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Dec 2 2004, 08:27 PM (566 Views) | |
| Dwayne | Dec 2 2004, 08:27 PM Post #1 |
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Maybe they have no idea who and what Hitler was, as this poll in the UK shows.
I found this poll shocking in that 45% of the respondants had never heard of Auschwitz. As well, I'd love to see a similar poll of Americans for the sake of conparison. That said, I firmly believe, based on this and other ancedotal evidence that Europeans really are not as knowledgeable as the media as they make themselves out to be. |
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| 24thcenstfan | Dec 2 2004, 08:35 PM Post #2 |
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Dwayne, I am curious, how did you get from your title question to "maybe they…," from a poll that does not indicate political affiliation? For all we know, those who were polled were rightist. |
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| Ngagh | Dec 2 2004, 08:37 PM Post #3 |
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Huh?
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What does this have to do with the left? This poll just shows how igrnorant some Britons are to world events. |
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| Dandandat | Dec 2 2004, 08:48 PM Post #4 |
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It does show in a small and limiting way that the general public may not be aware of who Hitler truly was - in general (it can be in general – it would me both the left and the right). And then one can make the leap that because of this, people looking to bad mouth the present (the left we will assume – but this point does not speck to that), could easily use something they don’t understand to do so. So to be clear, this does not prove that any one is out to bad mouth the present for the sake of bad mouthing the president. But if we where to assume that this is a true fact, this poll can be used to show why these people have chosen to compare Bush to Hitler, because they don’t know just who they are comparing. Because it is the general public and not one group over the other, and again we where to assume that people want to bad mouth their anti-choice for the sack of bad mouthing them, we can assume that such a mischaracterization can come from both sides. To be very clear it can be used as evidence why many people would so easily compare someone (anyone) they don’t like to Hitler. Because they don’t know what they are talking about. I hope that makes sence – to made since in my head. |
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| cptjeff | Dec 2 2004, 09:10 PM Post #5 |
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The Line of Logic, to anser the question, is that Bush Has supressed dissentiong opinions, limited individual freedoms, ect. that part I agree with. Hitler did all of those things as well. in fact, the situation was VERY similar... Soon after coming into office, a Major Government Bulding was bombed and destroyed. he then Passed His version of the Patriot Act (I don't remember the name) and cooped up those who disagreed (who happend to look like terrorists) in forced labor camps. While Guanatamo isn't a forced labor camp, there are a lot of similaritys. that's the line of logic. also, they both went to war soon afterwords... but we all know that story. and How can somone never hear of Auschwitz? I just don't get that...
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| Admiralbill_gomec | Dec 2 2004, 09:16 PM Post #6 |
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Tell us how Bush has suppressed dissenting opinions. How has Bush limited individual freedoms? Cite facts. Do not give me "The USA PATRIOT Act" because unless you can prove actual data from that act, I'm not buying it. SO, YOU ARE SAYING THAT BUSH WAS BEHIND 9/11 THEN? The Nazis bombed the Reichstag building and blamed the communists. NINETEEN MALES OF ARABIC DESCENT HIJACKED FOUR AIRLINERS AND FLEW THEM INTO 1 WORLD TRADE, 2 WORLD TRADE, AND THE PENTAGON. The last plane was taken over by passengers and crashed in a field in Pennsylvania. You are saying that there's a link there? Either you don't know what you are talking about, or you are making an enormous mistake. Your call. There are ZERO similarities between Gitmo and a concentration camp. Guantanamo Bay is for ENEMY COMBATANTS who fought against American troops in Afghanistan and Iraq. It is not for some jagoff who says "Bush su**s" on the Internet. If I were you, I'd learn about logic before claiming that this is the "line of logic." |
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| Dandandat | Dec 2 2004, 09:31 PM Post #7 |
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Yes verey simler, the present has cooped up those who disagreed in forced labor camps. Their coming for you now cptjeff - run cptjeff run. Yes a lot of similarities just look at all the Arabs being shoved into the furnace. Bush should be ashamed. If I where a Jew or other group murdered and tortured by Hitler, I would take great offence to those who think its ok to equate what happened to my people and my family to what is being done by America and the Bush admiration today. All it does is serve to down grade the severity of what they went though. |
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| fireh8er | Dec 2 2004, 09:53 PM Post #8 |
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I'm Captain Kirk!
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President Bush is not Adolf Hitler! I don't see how anyone can equate the two. Must be good pot some where. |
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| Dwayne | Dec 2 2004, 09:55 PM Post #9 |
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The premise of my question is based on the idea that the political alignment of the government of Great Britain is reflective of the political alignment of the population of the same. While a small number of the people polled may have been on the right, the chances are the plurality of those polled are similar to those that voted for everything that makes British society left of center. |
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| somerled | Dec 3 2004, 12:09 AM Post #10 |
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Hard to believe - maybe the sample was a poor one or the base of the sample skewed. Maybe these were people who never watch or read the news, never watch historical documentaries and never got past year 8 or 9 in school. Maybe most the respondents were people who spend all their leisure time watching siccoms and reality TV shows. As to a connection between "leftism' and comparing Bush with Hitler and the results of this pole - NOW THAT"S A STRETCH !!! I might ask also why would Brits have the events of Auschwitz-Birkenau, Belzec, Chelmno, Majdanek, Sobibor , and others like them ingrained into their psychy , these all happened 60 years ago to another , mostly dead generation , in another country and few Brits were actually touched by the effects of these camps and horrors therein, and very few Brits had relatives who where interred there or died there. |
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| ImpulseEngine | Dec 3 2004, 12:14 AM Post #11 |
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Chances are...? And there we see how huge errors are made... |
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| Dwayne | Dec 3 2004, 12:18 AM Post #12 |
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Oh give me a break ... you think there's a bigger chance the respondants were right wingers??? |
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| ImpulseEngine | Dec 3 2004, 12:22 AM Post #13 |
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I don't think there's a chance of anything. I prefer facts. |
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| Dwayne | Dec 3 2004, 12:31 AM Post #14 |
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How convenient; you don't like a poll results so spin it into a "base of the sample skewed." I hear polls show a lot of Europeans dislike America ... I'd bet the base of the sample is skewed. That's it! And my observation about this poll and leftists is only a stretch for you, because to seriously consider the point would leave you in the uncomfortable position of admitting a great deal of leftist talking points is merely claptrap. |
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| Dwayne | Dec 3 2004, 12:33 AM Post #15 |
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[sarcasm]Sure you do.[/sarcasm] |
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