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Rumsfeld Facing War Crimes in Germany; Oh brother...
Topic Started: Dec 1 2004, 08:34 PM (867 Views)
Ngagh
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Rumsfeld Facing War Crimes in Germany

Oh brother. Will the madness never cease?!
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Minuet
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Did you hear about the idiot group in Vancouver "Lawyers Against the War in Iraq"?

They filed charges in British Columbia against Bush during his visit here. They charged him under Canada's war crimes act with torturing Iraqis. :no:
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doctortobe
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So Germany and Canada have the ability to charge people with crimes even though they were not committed by one of their citizens and did not affect their country? That sounds a little cocky to me. Shouldn't this be left up to international organizations? Or are they doing this unilaterally?
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cptjeff
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somthing called "international law"- it keeps forign relations running smoothly- less wars over power and all that.
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Swidden
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doctortobe
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cptjeff
Dec 1 2004, 10:52 PM
somthing called "international law"- it keeps forign relations running smoothly- less wars over power and all that.

And so single countries have the power to charge ANYBODY in the world with war crimes, regardless of whether or not they are involved or not? That's it, tomarrow I'm bringing charges against Chriac.
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cptjeff
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For?
you should have a basis in fact... the world court doesn't typically accept challenges from random people of the street.
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Batok
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Organizations, societies, and other groups of this sort should be ignored since their point usually is irrevelant.
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[/QUOTE]Shouldn't this be left up to international organizations?
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What about Iraq. Where was the international organization?
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Ngagh
Dec 1 2004, 08:34 PM
Rumsfeld Facing War Crimes in Germany

Oh brother. Will the madness never cease?!

I don't feel the least bit sorry for him.

As for the "madness", that was Abu Ghraib. I don't believe for one minute that Rumsfeld didn't know what was going on long before anyone made an issue of it. And, if I'm right, he's letting all the little guys take the blame. Disgusting.
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doctortobe
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cptjeff
Dec 1 2004, 11:10 PM
For?
you should have a basis in fact... the world court doesn't typically accept challenges from random people of the street.

Well, since there is no basis in fact for the charges leveled against Rumsfeld, then all I need to do is get together a bunch of people, give ourselves a fancy sounding name, and charge whomever we want to.

Of course, I'd like to see Germany try to come and get him.
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somerled
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Unfortunatedly - nothing will come of it (anytime soon).

I would happily contribute to their fighting fund if I thought it was a serious attempt to prosecute Rumsfeld and others.

And he and his gang are indeed war criminals and should eventually be taken to task for war crimes and crimes against humanity.

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doctortobe
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Yes, we should have just left Saddam alone. HE wasn't a war criminal was he?
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doctortobe
Dec 2 2004, 02:45 AM
Yes, we should have just left Saddam alone. HE wasn't a war criminal was he?

Saddam wasn't a nice leader, however that was not a good excuse to kill thousands and harm many more , and destroy a country in an effort to depose him.

And his character wasn't the reason used to wage war on Iraq , invade and occupy the place was it ?
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doctortobe
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Saddam wasn't a nice leader, however that was not a good excuse to kill thousands and harm many more , and destroy a country in an effort to depose him.

And his character wasn't the reason used to wage war on Iraq , invade and occupy the place was it ?


His crimes were one of the three main reasons.

Tell me, shouldn't he have been pursued as a war criminal? If the UN or this German groups weren't so weak kneed, they would have gone after Saddam after the first use of WMDs against Iran. But no, they let him rule for decades. But how exactly do you think the UN would have gotten Saddam if they had a pair? They would have had to invade Iraq, capture Saddam, then keep a force in Iraq while they reconstructed the country and set up a new government.

Wait, that sounds familiar....
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