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| Falluja a "horror" After US Led Offensive | |
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| gvok | Dec 1 2004, 12:38 PM Post #1 |
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Falluja a "Horror" After US Led Offensive Long road ahead for residents of shattered city From CNN Producer Arwa Damon Wednesday, December 1, 2004 Posted: 2:38 AM EST (0738 GMT) FALLUJA, Iraq (CNN) -- Mahmoud Zubari and his family fled their home in Falluja after it was bombed and his 13-year-old son was killed. Zubari, his wife and their remaining eight children, ages 2 to 16, spent the next 20 days in the house of a friend while the U.S.-led onslaught to drive out insurgents in the city got under way. Last week, the family was picked up by the Iraqi Red Crescent, under Marine escort, and taken to the humanitarian group's compound in the city. Tuesday, the family returned to the home they took sanctuary in. "All the wealth will not bring back my son, but now I have to think of the future for the rest of my children," said Zubari's wife, Selma. "What will become of us?" That is a sentiment shared by many residents of the shattered city, which remains under curfew and where pockets of fighting continue to rage. Some homes in the city have begun posting signs in both Arabic and English that read, "Family inside." The Red Crescent compound houses more than 100 residents who became stranded there after a 24-hour curfew was put back in place last week by U.S. forces in eastern Falluja. Marine commanders had previously implemented a curfew between 3 p.m. and 7 a.m. Fuad Kubaysi, one of those staying at the Red Crescent compound, said, "What has happened to Falluja is a horror beyond anything imaginable. We don't want it anymore. Let them have it. Let whomever wants it have it. We cannot ever call this city home again." Red Crescent volunteer Sabri Abd Almalek said the restrictions imposed by the Marines are hindering their humanitarian efforts to bring relief to families throughout the city. "We are stuck here," he said. "We came here to help the people, treat the sick, and they won't let us leave -- only when we have permission." The first Red Crescent convoy arrived in the city Friday and began distributing food and medical supplies. But the round-the-clock curfew has sharply limited those efforts. Marine Col. Craig Tucker, the commanding officer of Regimental Combat Team 7, said the curfew was reimposed because of sporadic fighting throughout the eastern sector of the city and continued security concerns. What has happened to Falluja is a horror beyond anything imaginable ... We cannot ever call this city home again. -- Fuad Kubaysi, Falluja resident The Red Crescent is allowed to work with Marine escort. Marines are escorting and helping the group identify families in need and provide them with food, water and medical supplies. Women and children who want to leave the city are escorted out. Military-age men have to be screened before they are escorted home or out of the city. Lt. Col. Michael Ramos, a battalion commander with the combat team in charge of northeastern Falluja, said Marines have so far identified 20 families in his sector, but there may be up to 50. He said families and men who passed the screening and wanted to return to their homes in the city would have their homes first searched for weapons and possible insurgents who might have taken sanctuary in them. The homes would then be marked for food and water distribution. As for Zubari, he has been told he will receive compensation for his home being destroyed. In addition to losing his 13-year-old son, he said, his brother was killed -- and according to men in the neighborhood, he was buried in the garden of a nearby house. CNN's Jane Arraf contributed to this report. |
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| Wichita | Dec 1 2004, 01:19 PM Post #2 |
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| Hoss | Dec 1 2004, 01:21 PM Post #3 |
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I can roll back this thread to the first post and close it if it degenerates again.
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| gvok | Dec 1 2004, 01:21 PM Post #4 |
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I would support that. Thanks. |
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| Hoss | Dec 1 2004, 01:24 PM Post #5 |
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I hope I didn't knock anyone back down from Comodore or something with all that deleting. :lol: I left wichita's post both because it was relevant and I am scared of her.
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| Dandandat | Dec 1 2004, 01:25 PM Post #6 |
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First, you brought me into it, so you can only thank your self for that. Second I can defiantly can do "something" you just wont like what I can do. In fact I don’t see AB giving any of the administration a hard time like you like to do, so when something is done about this situation you can bet you will be first on the list. |
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| Wichita | Dec 1 2004, 01:25 PM Post #7 |
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| gvok | Dec 1 2004, 01:25 PM Post #8 |
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For what it's worth,I think you did a satisfactory job. |
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| Wichita | Dec 1 2004, 01:29 PM Post #9 |
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Personal Response Anybody have that link to the photo essay on what the Marines found in Fallujah? Two days ago, I knew where to find it, but don't now. There's nearly 60 photos so I haven't seen them all. Certainly "horror" is a word to describe what has gone on in Fallujah for the last 8 months. Executions were pretty common according to what I've read. End of Personal Response |
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| gvok | Dec 1 2004, 01:34 PM Post #10 |
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I certainly agree with that. Obiviously now that we invaded Iraq we must now do what it takes to finish the job. I just wonder whether the Bush Administration would have chosen to invade Iraq if they knew what the cost was going to turn out to be. |
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| Dandandat | Dec 1 2004, 01:36 PM Post #11 |
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I would take a guess and say yes they would, I would. And they knew what the cost would be, they never said it would be easy. They infact did say it would be long and hard. |
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| Wichita | Dec 1 2004, 01:37 PM Post #12 |
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Here's the slideshow I was talking about A blogger linked it to hopefully speed up access. Click on the arrows not the numbers. It will move faster. |
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| gvok | Dec 1 2004, 01:41 PM Post #13 |
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Their rhetoric seems inconsistent with the size and equiptment of the initial invasion force and their initial tactics after the fall of Baghdad. |
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| Wichita | Dec 1 2004, 01:43 PM Post #14 |
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Personal Response Now you have me confused, Gvok. I thought that the point of your thread was to highlight the horrors of Fallujah. We know from the mass graves found, the personal stories told to human rights groups, and the work of Iraqi citizens themselves to try and list all the people missing during the regime that the horrors existed regardless of the actions of the United States or any other country in the coalition. Are you now saying that we should simply ignore attempted genocide because it's too "difficult"? End of Personal Response |
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| gvok | Dec 1 2004, 01:46 PM Post #15 |
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That happened to be the title of the article I posted. |
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