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| The future of the United Nations? | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Nov 30 2004, 08:19 AM (662 Views) | |
| gvok | Dec 1 2004, 03:39 PM Post #31 |
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I think DS9 just said that. I can't see France diluting it's power though. I wonder how this might be accomplished. |
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| doctortobe | Dec 1 2004, 05:48 PM Post #32 |
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It won't happen. Tell me somerland, what kind of incentive would you need to go bomb Sydney? |
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| ANOVA | Dec 1 2004, 05:48 PM Post #33 |
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An American division commanded by a French CnC defending Russian interests? I see no problem with nationalism. Let each country pursue its own best interests, when its interests conflict with another countries let treaties and negotiations be used. The UN is corrupt and irrelevant because it lacks accountability and is used by member nations to thwart any action. Everything after "I think" proves you really didn't. ANOVA isn't it unconstitutional for the US military to serve under a foriegn commander? |
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| Dr. Noah | Dec 1 2004, 05:50 PM Post #34 |
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*sigh* Still insults from the peanut gallery. I shouldn't expect more. It's really sad. |
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| Hoss | Dec 1 2004, 05:52 PM Post #35 |
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I guess that I see the UN as more of a diplomatic and moderating institution, perhaps as a place for negotiating, agreeing to and ruling on international agreements and not really being capable of fulfilling a military role (including peace-keeping). Military intervention is when nations can not agree diplomatically and/or are unwilling to be bound by rulings by the UN. I don't see a point in UN military forces. Joint military forces are more proper between alliances like NATO. The UN includes countries that are opposed rather than allied. |
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| Dr. Noah | Dec 1 2004, 05:55 PM Post #36 |
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My apologies. Next time I'll post a freaking research paper.
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| 24thcenstfan | Dec 1 2004, 06:00 PM Post #37 |
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Sisko, I am thoroughly confused by this comment. Were you addressing it to a specific person?
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| Dr. Noah | Dec 1 2004, 06:02 PM Post #38 |
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Yes. I am through posting in this forum however. I haven't been here all day, and out of nowhere someone decides to insult me for NO REASON. Talk about immature. Try getting admin to do anything about it. Not even a quick call out. |
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| Hoss | Dec 1 2004, 06:16 PM Post #39 |
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I am not sure about the insult, unless it was because he was trying to debunk you claims about nationalism in a less than polite way? I wasn't even sure that it was you that he was quoting as he did not put your name on it. |
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| Minuet | Dec 1 2004, 06:20 PM Post #40 |
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Official Response
This line was unnessesary. Your point could have been made without this insult. Please refrain from these comments in the future. |
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| Hoss | Dec 1 2004, 06:24 PM Post #41 |
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Official D'oh Response doh, I equated that with the signature, but it wasn't. Yeah, I try to put 'I think' when expressing an opinion, so that I don't get jumped on for research papers. :lol: If we can't discuss opinions, then what are we doing here? That was insulting. |
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| ds9074 | Dec 1 2004, 07:05 PM Post #42 |
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A UN army runs into the same problem as an EU army. It would totally compromise the national soveriegnty of the member states. The EU has decided that it must settle for a rapid reaction force which would allow member states to take collective military action in situations where it is less appropriate for NATO is intervene, (the idea is that we start pulling out weight more, for example that we should have had the capacity to deal with Kosovo without the USA) but it is still made up of national militaries contributing to the force. I dont however believe it is appropriate to go even this far at a UN level. The UNSC should be able to authorise the use of force but leave it is members to carry out that forceful intervention, ala Gulf War 1. |
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| somerled | Dec 2 2004, 02:05 AM Post #43 |
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Bomb Sydney ? :rolleyes:
the place is a mad house ! so not much .
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| somerled | Dec 2 2004, 02:16 AM Post #44 |
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Not necessarily paying "bribes" to get the UN Headquarters It could work the same way as the Summer and Winter Olympic Games , Commonwealth Games , where countries bid for the right to have the UN Headquarters take up residence and perhaps then , if successful in their bid , build suitable infrastructure that the UN then rents when in residence. Why a city , and not just buy or construct an island ? well cities are better housing big organisations as much of the infrastructure and workforce is already available. Plus it is more convenient. |
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| somerled | Dec 2 2004, 02:23 AM Post #45 |
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Then nation states might well have had their day. Only most people (and politicians in power today - don't see it or don't want to see it or admit it). I wonder if 500 years ago the educated and ruling classes amongst people living city states (in renaisence europe) were wondering about the future of city states ? |
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Were you addressing it to a specific person?
:rolleyes:
3:19 AM Jul 11