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| Why is it wrong for Christians to impose; their morals on people? | |
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| ANOVA | Nov 24 2004, 04:22 PM Post #76 |
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CPA There are at least two non-beleivers on this site who don't view peopel of religious faith the way you do. I personally find Kerry's religiuos statments disingenious. Wouldn't his soul be forfiegt if he signed legilsation to allow any further abortions? I think his faith is window dressing. He probably equates faith with opinion. So long as congress passes no law establishing a state religion, a president stating that his moral guidance comes from his faith is fine with me. Establishment of a moral code and therefore the existence of moral character must be based on some premise. ANOVA the souless, godless one |
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| gvok | Nov 24 2004, 04:24 PM Post #77 |
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I think Kerry correctly and responsibly viewed the relation between his religious faith and the job description of President of the United States. One should not rule the other. They should be kept seperate. I also think it is a mistake to judge another man's religious faith. There is no way you can step inside another person's mind or heart. |
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| Dr. Noah | Nov 24 2004, 04:26 PM Post #78 |
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This raises the question as to whether a representative should vote according to his/her constituancy (which is technically his/her job) or to vote according to his/her own personal beliefs. Dennis Kucinich was a pro-life democrat for several years because of this. |
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| Fesarius | Nov 24 2004, 04:29 PM Post #79 |
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Unless, of course, one is a self-professed mind reader.... |
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| gvok | Nov 24 2004, 04:29 PM Post #80 |
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There are two schools of thought on that and I imagine every politician falls somewhere inbetween to varying degrees. Obviously a politician should not operate outside of legal parameters regarless of his constituency's desires. |
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| Dr. Noah | Nov 24 2004, 04:32 PM Post #81 |
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I think it may explain Kerry's position though. Sometimes I think people forget that the job of a representative is to represent their constituancy. Too often, it's the representatives themselves. :angry: |
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| gvok | Nov 24 2004, 04:34 PM Post #82 |
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Also people suffer from divided loyalties. I, personally, would not want a man in the office who feels his supreme loyalty is to his religion rather than the job he was elected to do. |
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| Dr. Noah | Nov 24 2004, 04:36 PM Post #83 |
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Agreed. It seems sometimes leaders are beyond public accountability. They think of them as "focus groups". |
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| ANOVA | Nov 24 2004, 04:37 PM Post #84 |
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First, if one votes against his religious and moral beliefs one has ruled the other. Second, Kerry is a catholic last time I checked, they believe in an immortal soul and in mortal sin. His statements on abortion place his soul in danger and directlly oppose the Pope's position on this issue. His actions (not my psychic abilities) allow me to question his "faith" and his actions allow me to state that his faith is a sham. Why else would bishops of his own church state that he should not recieve the sacrement? An acient Japanese saying goes "No Samurai can serve two masters." the same is true for any person of faith. ANOVA the theological Ronin |
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| Dr. Noah | Nov 24 2004, 04:39 PM Post #85 |
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Again, read the part about representing your constituancy. As for following the Pope's word, there are plenty of Catholics who don't believe in evolution even though the Pope said it is compatible with the Catholic faith over 10 years ago. I suspect there are plenty of Catholics who differ with the Pope on other issues yet consider themselves people of faith. It is not for any of us to judge someone else's faith. |
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| Fesarius | Nov 24 2004, 04:39 PM Post #86 |
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^^^ Christ would agree with you.
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| Dr. Noah | Nov 24 2004, 04:41 PM Post #87 |
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Christ and I agree on lots of things.
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| Minuet | Nov 24 2004, 04:43 PM Post #88 |
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But it is amazing how many of his followers do not subscribe to that. |
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| Fesarius | Nov 24 2004, 04:44 PM Post #89 |
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^^^ I know.... <sigh> |
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| Dr. Noah | Nov 24 2004, 04:45 PM Post #90 |
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Amen Minuet. It's shocking when you really think about it. It's part of the reason I don't consider myself Christian anymore. The hypocrisy was too overwhelming. |
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