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| Dandandat | Nov 24 2004, 08:22 AM Post #46 |
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Time to put something here
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If you are Pro-life how can you stand ideally by and watch people make the “choice” to kill an innocent life, just because it cant defend its self? |
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| somerled | Nov 24 2004, 08:41 AM Post #47 |
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:offtopic: and getting a bit sourcey. Actually, a couple of wife's girlfriends - long standing family friends visited for dinner today - (know then from my elder boy's play-group days) , and they happened to mention male (w)hores - kind of in passing - one of these good ladies is undergoing a painful separation from her "toy boy" (that's another story) and it was suggested she hire a "rentahusband" - apparently they'll do the housework, or other more manly chores, or anything else you ask for , for a day (and night) , in the buff or just wearing a bow tie if that turns you on. Well so the story goes. Well - I have found this for you rent-a-husband , it's a franchise. As to what "services" they might provide - ? - not quite it's as extensive or "personal" as they think. But the Japanese do actually have a male Geisa culture and industry that does "service" for the ladies (I guess rich and bored ones) for a fee. |
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| Minuet | Nov 24 2004, 09:07 AM Post #48 |
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Well I guess we have successfully confused each other
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| Dandandat | Nov 24 2004, 09:10 AM Post #49 |
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Time to put something here
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As an atheist, I completely agree with what the Doc is trying to say, religion by the fact that it makes up many peoples mind sets is going to influence the way these people govern, whether they are doing it maliciously or just because that is the way they think. All other groups (such as the atheist one I belong to, that tried to force its opinions about changing the pledge of allegiance) are in the same boat, to give a few groups a pass while stopping others from their right to have their own opinions heard is hypocrisful and/or cowardice. Here let me through the idea for a loop. Say that I where president as an atheist I would bring zero religious notions to the table. But One of the things I would push for is the reversal of Roe vs Wade, whether that means and amendment to strike it down, or appoint justices that will over turn it. Now if our current president does this same thing, he is pushing his religion on people (shear evil), If I do it what is it called? It's just inevitable and it wont change because it can't, the way people think is going to influence the way they govern. Religion is going to shape the way a religious man thinks and so the way he governs, Non-religion ideals are going to shape the way a non-religious man thinks and so governs. What can change is the way we look at each other and try to accept others for what they are, and not what they want them to be. |
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| Wichita | Nov 24 2004, 09:50 AM Post #50 |
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Personal Response Then our work here is done ... End of Personal Response |
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| Fesarius | Nov 24 2004, 10:20 AM Post #51 |
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Rose and Minuet, LOL! Thanks for the entertainment.
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| captain_proton_au | Nov 24 2004, 10:45 AM Post #52 |
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I was watching the Simpsons tonight, they had on the episode where Bart and Milhouse trash Neds Beatles Collection, there is one scene where the pair are later watching a religous program, as soon as the host said the word 'Jesus' , Bart and Milhouse scream and run out of the room. I laughed out loud, but later I realised that it sums up this thread and most of my generation quite nicely. A political leader can present his moral views and religous beliefs, but not in the same sentence. Us non believers basically see believers as being brain washed, not operating on all faculties, ready to accept some doctrines that go against common sense, to us that is scary. Which is why religion should be separate from state |
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| gvok | Nov 24 2004, 10:49 AM Post #53 |
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Another reason why a politician, especially a US President, should not wear his religion on his sleeve is that a citizen should never have to question where his elected leaders' loyalties lay. Their job is to take care of the state. That should be their first priority. |
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| Admiralbill_gomec | Nov 24 2004, 10:59 AM Post #54 |
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Funny that they asked JFK if he took his orders from Vatican City. Who cares, except for libs, if he has faith and isn't afraid to show it? In today's wussified, politically-correct, anything goes, secular society, that takes guts. A little faith never hurt anyone, and those who show fear and loathing of it have something to hide. To those who don't believe, but don't feel threatened by someone else's belief, they get it. To those who believe differently, but don't feel threatened, they get it. This nation was, like it or not, founded on Christian principles. The first settlements here were founded by those seeking religious freedom, NOT freedom from religion. The president is not forcing his Methodist beliefs on anyone else. I wonder if those who whine about President Bush's religious beliefs had any problem with John Kerry's brand of "Cafeteria Catholicism" or not? |
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| Dr. Noah | Nov 24 2004, 11:01 AM Post #55 |
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Judge not Admiral, lest ye be judged.
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| gvok | Nov 24 2004, 11:22 AM Post #56 |
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He certainly has a judgement for all occasions. I have nothing against religious faith. I just think politicians should be careful to separate their faith from their political office. They were elected for a purpose and there should be no question where their priorities lay with respect to the job they were elected to perform. |
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| Admiralbill_gomec | Nov 24 2004, 11:25 AM Post #57 |
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Insult, no. Show people in their true light, yes. |
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| Admiralbill_gomec | Nov 24 2004, 11:26 AM Post #58 |
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I'm perfectly fine with that!
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| gvok | Nov 24 2004, 11:27 AM Post #59 |
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If that's how you feel about it. |
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| captain_proton_au | Nov 24 2004, 11:31 AM Post #60 |
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I take it that was supposed to be sarcastic
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