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| gvok | Dec 2 2004, 12:19 PM Post #91 |
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Admiral, a free press' duty to the public is to report the truth. An informed electorate is essential to any democratic system. At least the framers of the Constitution thought this was true. |
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| Admiralbill_gomec | Dec 2 2004, 12:21 PM Post #92 |
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This DOES NOT mean that a reporter needs to add his two cents to an article that could have been two paragraphs long. There is a difference between an informed electorate and a "lectured to" electorate. |
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| gvok | Dec 2 2004, 12:25 PM Post #93 |
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Do you think the news sources are more editorial now than they were when the United States was founded? |
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| Fesarius | Dec 2 2004, 12:38 PM Post #94 |
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Admiral, But why has this changed over the years? Or, do you think it existed back (e.g.) in the 1940s and 1950s? I see more subjectivity now than I did twenty years ago, but don't know what it is precisely that has led to this. |
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| Minuet | Dec 2 2004, 01:20 PM Post #95 |
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Frankly Gvok - what difference does it make? Whether or not editorializing was done in the past it is still wrong to do in a "news" item. |
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| gvok | Dec 2 2004, 01:42 PM Post #96 |
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I don't think so. The news sources around at the time the US was founded were incredibly editorial (much more so than now) and yet the founders included the freedom of the press in the Constitution. The founders had faith that in a society where multiple free news sources exist the electorate would be able to sift through them to determine the truth. I think this is as true now as it was then. |
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| Admiralbill_gomec | Dec 2 2004, 02:16 PM Post #97 |
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So what. That doesn't make it right. Journalism teaches to tell the "Who, what, where, when, why, and how" in a news story, not add your own editorial slant. |
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| gvok | Dec 2 2004, 02:33 PM Post #98 |
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Why don't you feel this way about Worldnetdaily and the other right wing sources you commonly cite to? |
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| Admiralbill_gomec | Dec 2 2004, 03:15 PM Post #99 |
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I DO consider those sources as well. Funny, I rarely use Worldnet. You must be confusing me with Dwayne. The difference is, I can recognise it, and I actually comment on it. You post articles that paint America in a bad light. |
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| Minuet | Dec 2 2004, 03:40 PM Post #100 |
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^^^ So what makes those that cast America in a good light more accurate then those that cast it in a bad light???? If you are going to be against editorializing in a "news" article you should be willing to see it from both sides IMO. |
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| gvok | Dec 2 2004, 03:42 PM Post #101 |
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Thanks Min. You beat me to it. |
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| Admiralbill_gomec | Dec 2 2004, 04:15 PM Post #102 |
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I notice both of you missed what I said. Let me try to be blunter about it. Gvok posts articles on purpose that paint America in a bad light. Okay? I can't be simpler than that. Why does he do it? We've already discussed this ad nauseum. I can see bias, from either side, in a news story. Please note that I have posted from all over the political map. |
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| gvok | Dec 2 2004, 04:17 PM Post #103 |
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This is an absolute falsehood. I have no desire to paint the US in a bad light. But your feelings on this demonstrate the real reason why there is so much bad blood in this forum. |
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| Admiralbill_gomec | Dec 2 2004, 04:19 PM Post #104 |
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Shall we look at your posts since, oh, last summer, as proof of that? |
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| gvok | Dec 2 2004, 04:22 PM Post #105 |
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Yes please show me proof that I post articles with the specific purpose of painting the US in a bad light. If you can't then I hope you'll have the decency to retract your accusation. |
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