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| Tweet Topic Started: Sep 16 2004, 07:45 AM (293 Views) | |
| Hoss | Sep 16 2004, 07:45 AM Post #1 |
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If there were a future Star Trek series, how would you feel about more androids? For instance, hundreds of them in Star Fleet serving as would a person. Or do you think that the android line should be ended with Data (and the Lore, B4, and his daughter characters)? I would kind of prefer that Data remain a unique character in Star Trek history and we continue to focus on humans. I also don't want to see armies of holograms. One was a the right amount. |
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| Fesarius | Sep 16 2004, 09:18 AM Post #2 |
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I agree that one was the right amount, and that Data ought to remain unique. I thought The Measure of a Man brought this home rather well.
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| Sgt. Jaggs | Sep 16 2004, 09:44 AM Post #3 |
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Did you mention Data and B-4???![]() Thanks alot, my day was going so well too.......... Unfortunately Trek being bereft of new ideas will do us by feeding us more android crap filled episodes, like how many times has Data "lost it" and become a threat to the Enterprise? Heck in TWO movies he was a liability. The emotion chip meltdown in Generations and the Insurrection safe mode crap. The next logical step will be in a major film and B-4 will have a Virus or a worm or something else pathetic to render him useless and/or a threat. If he is lucky maybe he can go back in time and find Data's head, it currently resides in 4 plus locations and temporal realities.
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| gdog243 | Sep 16 2004, 11:07 AM Post #4 |
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Yes Data should remain unique and B-4 should be deactivated and wiped out of memory just like the false rules of acquisition. B-4 was really the worst thing about Nemesis. |
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| Hoss | Sep 16 2004, 11:08 AM Post #5 |
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Maybe a movie in which Data looses it while in the holodeck which malfunctions and all safeties are off, meanwhile an interstellar phenomenon is blocking communications with Star Fleet and interfering with the warp drive all the while a crew member is in dire need of getting to a star base and an enemy vessel is searching for them. Star Trek XI: Cliche |
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| captain_proton_au | Sep 16 2004, 11:44 AM Post #6 |
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^^^ Pop in a few head massages for good measure
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| captain_proton_au | Sep 16 2004, 11:49 AM Post #7 |
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If we see a series set in the 25th Century or beyond I think these type of things would be inevitable. But forget about androids or holograms, what about robots?, as if they wouldnt have robots doing some jobs in 2151 or 2378! |
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| Dr. Noah | Sep 16 2004, 12:00 PM Post #8 |
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This is one thing that is missing from Star Trek. I love how Star Wars in it's own limited way have set up a robot caste system in that setting. Robots are a slave working class that has little in the way of rights, because, well, they're machines. It's an interesting take. Star Trek, however, has thier own sort-of version of this with holograms. Voyager did some things with the concept of a slave caste system. Some of their better work. |
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| Hoss | Sep 16 2004, 12:08 PM Post #9 |
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Well, they had those exocomp things. And they referenced the ship being self-cleaning. And with transporter-replicator technology they circumvent the need for alot of robotic workers. "Clean up in geoffries tube 11A"; maintenance computer beams mess away; tada. Gimme a break with Star Wars droids anyhow. With all that technology you'd thing that R2D2 could've programmed to speak something other than beep, whistle, beep, boop. Maybe perhaps, English. But if Chewbacca screaming repetively equates to a language, then beep, whistle, beep, boop does too. |
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| Dr. Noah | Sep 16 2004, 12:12 PM Post #10 |
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Good point. However, this brings up the whole misnomer of the universal translator. Enterprise, for a short time seemed as if they were going to address how the thing works, as it's new technology in the 22nd century. I don't remember what episode it was, but my wife and I were watching DS9 and she asked me how it works. I explained that basically everyone is speaking thier own native language and the communicator translates it to each person in their language. She says, so when Worf is speaking in English, he's really speaking in Klingon? Right. And when Quark is speaking in English, he's really speaking in Ferengi? Right. So why does their lips move as if they're speaking English? And what's going on when you hear Worf speaking Klingon? Um, you got me there.
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| Hoss | Sep 16 2004, 12:18 PM Post #11 |
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Yeah, I wondered that catch about the lips moving too. In one DS9 ep., the Feringis kept the translator in their ears. Anyhow, this is one of those areas of Star Trek where you shouldn't scrutinize it too closely and just accept the fact that it would be difficult to watch if they had a separate language for every race or it looked dubbed like a kung-fu movie. Especially for the hearing impaired who have to read lips. Just pretend that they're speaking in their own language and you understand it. |
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| Dr. Noah | Sep 16 2004, 12:28 PM Post #12 |
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I do very much like though when native languages are spoken like Klingon and Vulcan. I don't know if anyone remembers this but I think an insectoid race that communicates through pheremones would be cool. You would never see them move their mandibles, but they are speaking through the communicator. Plus people can talk about how they smell. :rolleyes: |
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| Hoss | Sep 16 2004, 12:35 PM Post #13 |
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Every race could just be like the Sheliak and we just here them but don't understand how they communicate. |
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| Fesarius | Sep 16 2004, 12:55 PM Post #14 |
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Or how about the Jarada (from The Big Goodbye)? They were such a nice group of friendly people, too.
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| Dr. Noah | Sep 16 2004, 01:30 PM Post #15 |
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Actually, no. I think a future series should show a worker class of androids based on Soong's design. Then, they can revolt and we can have the new Star Trek series: Attack of the Androids. (just kidding) |
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Um, you got me there.
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