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| Tweet Topic Started: Aug 24 2004, 10:11 PM (242 Views) | |
| Admiralbill_gomec | Aug 24 2004, 10:11 PM Post #1 |
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I don't know if y'all have heard, but there was an explosion in a Russian subway earlier today, and this evening two aircraft leaving Domodedovo (one of Moscow's airports) blew up within three minutes of each other. Is this the Chechens? Is this al Queda? |
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| Wichita | Aug 24 2004, 10:20 PM Post #2 |
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Personal Response I'd heard about the planes, but not the subway. I would bet on the Chechens being most likely responsible. End of Personal Response |
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| CV6 Enterprise | Aug 24 2004, 11:08 PM Post #3 |
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I really wouldn't be suprised if they were working together. |
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| somerled | Aug 25 2004, 05:28 AM Post #4 |
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Also two Russian internal passenger liners have been brought down within minutes of each other. Hijack feared as jets crash in Russia (ABC NEWS)
what BBC reported : Double air disaster hits Russia
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| doctortobe | Aug 25 2004, 08:17 AM Post #5 |
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Time to make a couple thousand more craters in Chechnya. When are they going to turn that area into a parking lot? |
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| Ngagh | Aug 25 2004, 01:08 PM Post #6 |
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It would be plausable that Al Queda and Chechnyan rebels are working together. There have been ties in the past. Doc: If they did, we whole international comunity would nag about all the innocents that were killed in the process. |
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| captain_proton_au | Aug 25 2004, 01:18 PM Post #7 |
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First sentence: Ties?, there both funded by the Saudis Second: Russia wouldnt care |
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| Ngagh | Aug 25 2004, 02:22 PM Post #8 |
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Then why hasn't Russia nuked the hell out of Chechnya? |
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| ds9074 | Aug 25 2004, 02:38 PM Post #9 |
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A careful and moderate response is required. It is not wise to take hasty decisions when things like this happen. They need to be investigated properly. The USA didnt turn Afganistan into a parking lot or nuke the hell out of Saudi after 9/11, why should Russia do so to Chechnya? |
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| Ngagh | Aug 25 2004, 06:26 PM Post #10 |
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^^^^Because Russia is at war with the Chechnyan rebels, bombing there base would be them just responding to an attack. America wasn't at war with a country, they were at war with an organisation with no face. |
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| cptjeff | Aug 25 2004, 07:14 PM Post #11 |
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As they seeming ly are now. i suspect terorism too, but we don't know yet. patience is the key. And does anyone know if they have black boxes abaord russan airliners? Data from those would be extremly valuble in the investigation. |
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| somerled | Aug 25 2004, 07:29 PM Post #12 |
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Nuking Chechnya ? Are you crazy ? 1) what's the point ? 2) the rest of the world would never tolerate such a war crime. 3) not all Chechnyian's are rebels or even care about their cause - so exterminating all Chechnyians and turning Chechnya into a radioactive parking lot would be worst than what Hitler and his henchmen did in WWII. 4) it has not been proven that the Chechnyian had anything to do with these planes crashing. |
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| doctortobe | Aug 25 2004, 07:45 PM Post #13 |
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I'm just saying that Chechnya never seemed to be interested in attacking Russia when they knew that the Red Army would have no qualms turning them all into homeless refugees. Could it be that the ability to militarily oppose terrorism in fact helps defeat terrorism? |
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| Admiralbill_gomec | Aug 25 2004, 10:56 PM Post #14 |
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Yes, the Tupolev's have two black boxes (actually, they are white with day-glo orange stripes painted on them) per plane, just like other airliners. The Russians claimed to have retrieved the black boxes from both airliners at a news conference this morning. |
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| desainte | Aug 26 2004, 01:43 AM Post #15 |
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Pres Putin seems to take a more measured and less reactionary response to acts like these. If it can be proved that the Chechen rebels carried out these cowardly attacks, then he will respond with due force - as he did during the theatre hostage crisis in Moscow. A lot of people I know assumed there would be months of negotiation to get the hostages released - but that's not the Russian way. As for the Al Qaeda link - this is probable since the Chechen rebels seem to have a large number of islamic fundamentalists in their ranks. It seems that just about every country in the world seems to have problems with these fanatics at the moment. Al Qaeda hates the West in general and the US specifically, while Russia is having no small amount of trouble. There is even a problem in China's northern provinces with islamic insurgents (can't remember which provinces). Are these Islamic fanatics the communist and maoist insurgents of the new millennium? Thoughts |
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