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| Dandandat | Aug 24 2004, 12:20 PM Post #1 |
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| Dandandat | Aug 24 2004, 12:21 PM Post #2 |
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Moveon.org has sunk to such levels as to compare Bush to Hitler. In doing so they have trivialized what “real” people had to go through during Hitler’s range in saying it was at the same level of ease/hardness as the times we are going through now (legitimate question - which would you rather be - A solder during WWII or a solder during Iraqi? A Jew in Nazi Germany or an Iraqie in occupied Iraqi? If you pick now rather then then your judgment is seriously clouded). That is rude and a major disserves to those people. |
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| Admiralbill_gomec | Aug 24 2004, 12:28 PM Post #3 |
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Doesn't their latest ad (running in so-called toss-up states) also make that bogus claim that Bush was AWOL? Yeah, campaign finance reform has worked so well... |
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| Ngagh | Aug 24 2004, 12:29 PM Post #4 |
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I voted yes, because smear campaigns rarely show the issues behind the candidate. |
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| Dr. Noah | Aug 24 2004, 12:51 PM Post #5 |
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If the McCain Feingold bill wasn't so watered down before it passed, campaign finance would be a lot better, but that's what you get when you try to pass something that reduces benefits for every elected official. At least McCain had the cajones to try. I think the comparison to Hitler is ideological in nature rather than in reference to WWII. The fact that there are hundreds of prisoners held without being charged in open cages with bags over their heads might have something to do with it, and perhaps labeling anyone who disagrees with the president as "un-American". |
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| Admiralbill_gomec | Aug 24 2004, 01:06 PM Post #6 |
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Funny that the offenders have been investigated AND ARE NOW ON TRIAL!
Funnier still is that I don't remember the President, or anyone on his campaign, doing this... |
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| Dandandat | Aug 24 2004, 01:21 PM Post #7 |
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I don't quite understand what this means. Are you saying that that comparison is that Bush is like Hitler if Hitler was many many many times better? This pails, pails, in comparison to working people to death, experimenting on them while they are alive, starving them, and then gassing hoards of them at a time. To say that such a relation is equal is rude and insensitive to those who had to go through Nazi Germany. To use it to win political favor is morally criminal. The president has never said that. |
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| Dr. Noah | Aug 24 2004, 01:23 PM Post #8 |
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And of course you all missed the point. Ideologically means in thought, not in deed. And no, the president himself never said such a thing (publically) but his supporters certainly do. I have been called traitor enough here to know that. |
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| Admiralbill_gomec | Aug 24 2004, 01:38 PM Post #9 |
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That has nothing to do with either President Bush or Moveon.org ads, nor does it justify those ads. Let's focus here. |
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| Dandandat | Aug 24 2004, 01:45 PM Post #10 |
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So Bush think's like Hittler, but doesnt act like him? Can they read his mind?And even if they could, to play hard and fast with such a touchy subject is just as bad as implying what I have said above. Who caries what "SOME" of his supporters say, he is not them and they are not him. People have can have a defiance of opinion and still be on the same team (god knows that this mantra should be part of the American culture). But Bill is right this has nothing to do with Moveon.org. |
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| Dr. Noah | Aug 24 2004, 01:47 PM Post #11 |
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Well, as he said, things would be a lot easier for him if it was a dictatorship, but it would be pretty hard to get away with the things Hitler did in America. |
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| Admiralbill_gomec | Aug 24 2004, 01:50 PM Post #12 |
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^^^^ Once again, trotting out an old saw, and taken out of context AGAIN! What is it with you? Are you trying to convince someone who missed this last time? To whit:
Describing what it was like working with the TEXAS LEGISLATURE! (As governor of Texas.) I'm convinced that you have no sense of humor. You always look for alterior motives and conspiracies when NONE EXIST. Geez...
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| Dandandat | Aug 24 2004, 01:51 PM Post #13 |
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What?
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| Admiralbill_gomec | Aug 24 2004, 02:03 PM Post #14 |
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Dante: See modification above. |
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| CV6 Enterprise | Aug 24 2004, 02:11 PM Post #15 |
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The trouble with the 527s is that they have no accountablity. They can say what ever they want and basicly get a way with it. Same thing with Michael Moore's movie. The Left wing media won't call them on it. But the Swift Boat Veterns for Truth, another 527, puts out a ad against Kerry, and they're scutinized and called dishonst. Bill O'Reilly had a great Talking Points last night about the double standard. If these 527s had accountabilty, then I'd say they're free to put out ads, as long as the ads are factual. |
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Can they read his mind?


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