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| Dwayne | Aug 21 2004, 06:57 PM Post #1 |
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With all the talk of rich republicans and whatnot, I thought it would be interesting to show where the big money is coming from and going to. Top Individual Contributors to 527 Committees Top All-Time Donor Profiles Top Individual Donors Be sure to note the prevalent party receiving monies from the top individual donors. |
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| Admiralbill_gomec | Aug 21 2004, 07:32 PM Post #2 |
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Fascinating. Not at all surprising, but fascinating! |
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| gvok | Aug 21 2004, 09:04 PM Post #3 |
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Wait a second. Are you guys (Dwayne and AB) now saying that there is something wrong with having wealth and running for President? Note, this is not intended as a bait. I might have missed something but I thought that the "rightists" did not have a problem with wealth and politics. |
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| Wichita | Aug 21 2004, 10:18 PM Post #4 |
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Personal Response That's an interesting observation. Did you think that "rightists" had somehow chosen "wealth and politics" as the only or best option? Or did you see "rightists" as keeping either option open - as in being in politics is good regardless of whether you are wealthy or not? Second, why would simply discussing the fact that some Democrats are making massive financial contributions, to 527's for example, indicate that "rightists" have a problem with wealth and politics? I would view the list as contributors as simply a fact - without philosophical implications - so I am curious why you would view it as having some type of implications. Third, two years ago, at Startrek.com, I was engaged in on-going conversations with several posters (or, as I suspected, one poster with a penchant for duals) who self-identified as "leftist(s)" who did proclaim a problem with wealth and politics. References to the wealth of the Bush family, his Yale and Harvard education, and a lot of references to the Skull and Bones group were common and seemed to be given as indicators - according to these poster(s) - of his unfitness for public office. Now, of course, I am seeing the opposite view from some self-identified "leftist" that its not an issue - although Bush's family fortune pales in comparison to everyone else on the tickets and Kerry also has an Ivy League education and a Skull and Bones past membership. Until seeing your comment, I thought that it was simply a different in individual viewpoint - some people, regardeless of political leaning, have no problem with wealth and politics and other think it an indicator of corruption somehow. Which leads me to the fourth point, do you think "rightists" have or don't have a problem with wealth and politics? Do you think "leftists" have or don't have a problem with wealth and politics? End of Personal Response |
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| Wichita | Aug 21 2004, 10:27 PM Post #5 |
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And that's just the amount spent from the top four groups. Kerry only has $75 million to spend total between the convention and the election. Source End of Personal Response |
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| gvok | Aug 21 2004, 10:32 PM Post #6 |
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If Wichita is asking for my positon (it is difficult to tell from her post), I have no problem with "blue bloods" like Bush or Kerry serving in the post as President of the United States. I voted for George W. Bush in 2000 and I will vote for John F. Kerry in 2004. I was simply asking a question in order to better understand AB's, Dwayne's and their ilk's position. |
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| Dandandat | Aug 21 2004, 11:38 PM Post #7 |
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I think (and I will gladly stand corrected if I am wrong) they are speaking to the idea that generally the left and the Democratic Party hold up the torch of the poor and chastise the rich (for simply being rich). They are trying to point out that the left are made up of "evil" rich people just as much as the right is. And that perhaps the left take advantage of the system, to benefit their richer members, just as much as they criticizes the right for doing. |
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| gvok | Aug 22 2004, 12:52 AM Post #8 |
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That may be so. Not being from "the left" I would not know. |
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| Wichita | Aug 22 2004, 06:56 AM Post #9 |
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from dictionary.com I think you have gotten your threads mixed up Gvok. The other one is about blue-bloods and politics. This one is about wealth and politics. While "blue bloods" often have wealth as well, it isn't a requirement. The words are not synonymous. I'm sorry you found my questions confusing .... I was simply trying to ascertain what your position was. End of Personal Response |
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| gvok | Aug 22 2004, 09:28 AM Post #10 |
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"No confusion Tina. Just good science." --- Troy McCleure |
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| Fesarius | Aug 22 2004, 10:57 AM Post #11 |
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Gvok, Ahhh, but that has all changed now given your Presidential candidate of choice this November. Please let me know what it's like to be from the left--I'm all ears. <<<
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| gvok | Aug 22 2004, 12:07 PM Post #12 |
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I don't have enough information to answer your question. I am a registered Independent.
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| Fesarius | Aug 22 2004, 12:33 PM Post #13 |
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Gvok, Same thing.
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| cptjeff | Aug 22 2004, 12:41 PM Post #14 |
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well, personally, I don't have a problem with wealth and politics. Bill Gates for example: he proves havng moey dosn't mean you're corrupt. (a very charitable man) but I do wish the money wasn't spent on negitive ads. |
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| Dandandat | Aug 22 2004, 01:02 PM Post #15 |
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Except he may have violated some antitrust laws on the way up? |
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I was simply trying to ascertain what your position was.
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